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but thats how they got 12 books out of it so far... *NM* Iceman Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 04:29:50 PM
You're saying the Pattern is able to create Ta'veren in such a complex way as to balance one another out to just the right degree to get the Bore sealed with saidin so that the taint can be Healed by saidar 3000 year later.

If the Pattern can do THAT much fine tuning, then why not just create a Ta'veren like Lews Therin of sufficient strength to pull the right bunch of scientists together to create the Choedan Kal in year 1 of the War, incinerate all the forces of the Shadow in a single worldwide attack, and then spend the next 10 years with no pressure with thousands of the most eminent scientists in the world studying how best to close the Bore.

And each time a new bunch of Friends of the Dark arise, they just get wiped out again by Lews Therin wielding the Choedan Kal.

Why this convoluted need to create ta'veren, and counter ta'veren, which leads to the desperate situation where the Dragon is facing imminent defeat at the hands of the Shadow, which drives him to attempt the Sealing of the Bore out of pure desperation?

No, if the Pattern is THAT powerful, it could far more easily have brought together the required scientists to build the Choedan Kal up front, and remove the desperate need for the Strike at Shayol Ghul in one go.

Sometimes, I think, we tend to overestimate the level of complexity that RJ planned into this story. Mostly, he just needed something for dramatic effect, or to keep the plot moving.

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Character discussion 1 : Lews Therin Telamon - 03/05/2010 05:13:30 AM 1430 Views
A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 02:44:35 PM 607 Views
I thought that was supposed to be left up to the reader to decide. - 03/05/2010 03:45:07 PM 551 Views
Yeah, there seems to be an answer in the notes, though - 03/05/2010 04:12:27 PM 598 Views
Re: A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 04:34:23 PM 577 Views
Re: A tragic hero - 03/05/2010 04:47:01 PM 542 Views
Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 03/05/2010 11:29:54 PM 497 Views
Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 04/05/2010 05:22:19 AM 517 Views
Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children? - 05/05/2010 03:29:57 PM 520 Views
And even normals had extended lifespans - Mieran's servant was sixty & in his prime. - 06/05/2010 05:38:43 PM 521 Views
This makes me wonder ... - 06/05/2010 08:34:04 PM 471 Views
Well, Lews Therin is insane with only brief moments of coherence *NM* - 04/05/2010 06:42:09 PM 306 Views
well he is insane after all... - 06/05/2010 08:27:05 PM 454 Views
How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? - 03/05/2010 04:28:11 PM 605 Views
Re: How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin? - 03/05/2010 04:53:22 PM 536 Views
A rather unrealistic character in my opinion - 03/05/2010 11:27:32 PM 529 Views
Re: A rather unrealistic character in my opinion - 04/05/2010 12:32:33 PM 550 Views
TGS ought to have put an end to that flawed reasoning - 04/05/2010 04:31:16 PM 626 Views
I have a question - 04/05/2010 06:32:16 PM 536 Views
Re: I have a question - 04/05/2010 11:47:54 PM 523 Views
Overly convoluted theory, in my view... - 05/05/2010 09:48:11 AM 518 Views
but thats how they got 12 books out of it so far... *NM* - 06/05/2010 04:29:50 PM 218 Views
I agree. - 05/05/2010 07:10:50 PM 427 Views
Nods in agreement *NM* - 06/05/2010 08:36:45 PM 199 Views
Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ... - 04/05/2010 06:22:36 PM 579 Views
Re: Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ... - 05/05/2010 12:22:09 AM 513 Views
But... - 05/05/2010 10:19:18 AM 463 Views
Re: But... - 05/05/2010 02:44:18 PM 477 Views
Lews Therin's funny Talent - 04/05/2010 06:34:26 PM 527 Views
Wards can detect people. - 05/05/2010 12:21:02 AM 489 Views
In hindsight - 05/05/2010 08:39:21 AM 478 Views
Re: In hindsight - 05/05/2010 12:20:36 PM 451 Views
Re: In hindsight - 05/05/2010 04:42:45 PM 458 Views
Re: Lews Therin's funny Talent - 05/05/2010 03:12:26 PM 519 Views
Unrealistic and unsympathetic for the most part - 05/05/2010 04:28:34 PM 473 Views

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