but thats how they got 12 books out of it so far...
*NM*
Iceman Send a noteboard - 06/05/2010 04:29:50 PM

You're saying the Pattern is able to create Ta'veren in such a complex way as to balance one another out to just the right degree to get the Bore sealed with saidin so that the taint can be Healed by saidar 3000 year later.
If the Pattern can do THAT much fine tuning, then why not just create a Ta'veren like Lews Therin of sufficient strength to pull the right bunch of scientists together to create the Choedan Kal in year 1 of the War, incinerate all the forces of the Shadow in a single worldwide attack, and then spend the next 10 years with no pressure with thousands of the most eminent scientists in the world studying how best to close the Bore.
And each time a new bunch of Friends of the Dark arise, they just get wiped out again by Lews Therin wielding the Choedan Kal.
Why this convoluted need to create ta'veren, and counter ta'veren, which leads to the desperate situation where the Dragon is facing imminent defeat at the hands of the Shadow, which drives him to attempt the Sealing of the Bore out of pure desperation?
No, if the Pattern is THAT powerful, it could far more easily have brought together the required scientists to build the Choedan Kal up front, and remove the desperate need for the Strike at Shayol Ghul in one go.
Sometimes, I think, we tend to overestimate the level of complexity that RJ planned into this story. Mostly, he just needed something for dramatic effect, or to keep the plot moving.
If the Pattern can do THAT much fine tuning, then why not just create a Ta'veren like Lews Therin of sufficient strength to pull the right bunch of scientists together to create the Choedan Kal in year 1 of the War, incinerate all the forces of the Shadow in a single worldwide attack, and then spend the next 10 years with no pressure with thousands of the most eminent scientists in the world studying how best to close the Bore.
And each time a new bunch of Friends of the Dark arise, they just get wiped out again by Lews Therin wielding the Choedan Kal.
Why this convoluted need to create ta'veren, and counter ta'veren, which leads to the desperate situation where the Dragon is facing imminent defeat at the hands of the Shadow, which drives him to attempt the Sealing of the Bore out of pure desperation?
No, if the Pattern is THAT powerful, it could far more easily have brought together the required scientists to build the Choedan Kal up front, and remove the desperate need for the Strike at Shayol Ghul in one go.
Sometimes, I think, we tend to overestimate the level of complexity that RJ planned into this story. Mostly, he just needed something for dramatic effect, or to keep the plot moving.
Character discussion 1 : Lews Therin Telamon
03/05/2010 05:13:30 AM
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A tragic hero
03/05/2010 02:44:35 PM
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I thought that was supposed to be left up to the reader to decide.
03/05/2010 03:45:07 PM
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Re: A tragic hero
03/05/2010 04:34:23 PM
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Re: A tragic hero
03/05/2010 04:47:01 PM
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Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children?
03/05/2010 11:29:54 PM
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Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children?
04/05/2010 05:22:19 AM
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Re: Not to mention--how old was LTT? He really had no adult children?
05/05/2010 03:29:57 PM
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And even normals had extended lifespans - Mieran's servant was sixty & in his prime.
06/05/2010 05:38:43 PM
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Well, Lews Therin is insane with only brief moments of coherence *NM*
04/05/2010 06:42:09 PM
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How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin?
03/05/2010 04:28:11 PM
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Re: How perfect/imperfect was Lews Therin?
03/05/2010 04:53:22 PM
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LTT was close to perfect, and he barely managed to eke out a draw with the Shadow.
03/05/2010 09:16:29 PM
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What flaws? Lews Therin HAD no flaws. It's just you average folk being bitter about perfection...
03/05/2010 08:39:19 PM
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Who's bitter?
04/05/2010 05:20:36 AM
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Bitter is too strong a word. More "conditioned" to search for character flaws in literature...
05/05/2010 03:48:49 PM
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A rather unrealistic character in my opinion
03/05/2010 11:27:32 PM
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TGS ought to have put an end to that flawed reasoning
04/05/2010 04:31:16 PM
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I have a question
04/05/2010 06:32:16 PM
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Re: I have a question
04/05/2010 11:47:54 PM
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Overly convoluted theory, in my view...
05/05/2010 09:48:11 AM
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The Pattern can do this, so complicated or not, it happens all the time. RJ already said...
05/05/2010 07:14:56 PM
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but thats how they got 12 books out of it so far...
*NM*
06/05/2010 04:29:50 PM
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the reason you can't find real people as accomplished is no one lives that long in real life!
06/05/2010 08:50:58 PM
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Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ...
04/05/2010 06:22:36 PM
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Re: Did the LTT soul exist/reside in TAR as a Hero of the Horn ...
05/05/2010 12:22:09 AM
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Lews Therin's funny Talent
04/05/2010 06:34:26 PM
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Wards can detect people.
05/05/2010 12:21:02 AM
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