So... - Edit 1
Before modification by Etzel at 11/06/2010 08:51:16 AM
You do realise having Aran'gar remember a meeting with Graendal in TOM is pretty much exactly the same thing as showing this meeting?
All I'm saying is that Aran'gar will get from Graendal the information about Mesaana's identity. It doesn't matter at all to me if we see her meet Graendal and discuss this, or if we get a POV of Aran'gar remembering this meeting and getting this information.
Your "convictions" we won't see Graendal are not very... convincing. Not when it's so obvious the main reason you're convinced Graendal won't be seen again is really that you don't want her to have another POV for you-know-what. We've seen many scenes that have happened before in the timeline in a later book. The beginning of ACOS showed the other POV of Dumai's Wells from Sevana's side. TPOD jumped ahead in Egwene's story line and WH returned to before she travelled to TV. COT showed us full of scenes that had happened before the Cleansing. It's also the first time someone has to split in three a book RJ intended to be one book. We know there will be overlaps, and we know Brandon tried to include in TGS mostly what was pertinent to Rand/Egwene and their themes. There is no way to predict if he will show us more scenes with Graendal or not. The odds there is more of Graendal coming, anything not related to Rand, are 50/50. No more, but no less.
If you even agree it's unnecessary to show Graendal on-screen again some time before her death, it's not understandable at all, why do believe it might very well happen. As said, the idea to bring back a dead character that way in the next book is simply completely absurd, because it never happened before and it's unnecessary, since Aran'gar can simply think about something Graendal said to her (which would actually fit with what BS said). I rather believe that some people wish to have another Graendal POV, because they wrongly thought that she killed Asmo, and now she can't reveal it anymore.
It's more the opposite... if a woman who has not been in the Tower for so many years and who wasn't close to Anayia and Kairen could put it all together, then the odds were very high many Blues have found it odd it's two close friends like Anayia and Kairen who both got killed by that "man", when the other woman in the trio also died in mysterious circumstances a while ago.
I think it's made clear in the book that it was pure chance that Romanda figured it out.
That makes absolutely no sense at all!!!!!
Aran'gar made a plan, amd then she tried to undo her own plan.
Very intelligent theory.
Let the Lord of Chaos-rule.
Actually, I don't know, maybe Moria acted on her own, or was ordered by Alviarin or a Forsaken. I think it doesn't matter much. The point is, that it doesn't make sense that Aran'gar will "seek to get revenge" against Mesaana, because she supposedly spoiled her plan with the Rebels. The Forsaken are more closely under SH's and Moridin's thumb than ever, as we see e.g. in TGS. As Moridin said in KoD: "No one is allowed to go adventuring on their own any longer."Yeah.... riggght... Aran'gar spread chaos by a proposal that would bring male channellers into the camp and forbid her from channelling safely at any time.
Very brilliant.
See above.
How could Graendal be sure Mesaana is an Aes Sedai unless she's figured out which Aes Sedai she is? She finds Mesaana obvious and easy to read, and her agents in the Tower keep her apprised of Mesaana's doings and plans. How can they do that unless they keep an eye on Mesaana.
Well, also Alviarin, Verin and Egwene are convinced that she is an AS, but don't know the exact identity. The spies report what happens in the WT, and thus Graendal can deduce Mesaana's plans.
The only credible way in which Graendal knows all this without knowing who Mesaana is is if she's got Alviarin under Compulsion. You'd expect Mesaana would have paid attention to that possibility...
See above.
By the way, you seem to have missed that Graendal said she found her alliance with Aran'gar and the fact she was involved with the rebels very useful. One more clue Graendal is meddling with the trio/intends to meddle with the trio. A lot of her TGS POV is focussed on the trio, and a lot of Aran'gar's POV in KOD was focussed on the trio. Graendal has been sort of obsessed with the trio and their plans since LOC. She thought about them a lot.
That's nonsense. Graendal just likes to know everything. It's also clear that the association to Aran'gar can't be that close, since Aran'gar doesn't even know Graendal's lair. Probably they just meet once in a while and exchange informations. In TGS Graendal was obviously focused on Moridin's orders, which she got in the prologue.
You choose to focus on what Aran'gar said about Rand and Graendal's network you think she wants to use to kill Rand - but a lot of her POV is about Mesaana, wanting to split the trio, Demandred being dangerous, pointing out to Graendal the trio had an alliance while the two of them didn't etc.
Again, that was before Aran'gar left the Rebels. Besides that, it's usual Forsaken plotting, which often leads to nothing.
With all this set up, it makes a lot more sense to me Aran'gar will stay involved in the AS story line, not reappear god knows where in something else altogether. Even the fact she kept with her a woman who knows the Tower and its affairs well speak in favour of Aran'gar intending to meddle in Mesaana's affairs now.
I disagree for the reasons pointed out above.