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Re: Nothing really suggests that it is after TG. darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 01/07/2010 06:10:03 PM
Except for a few Min Viewings, no Prophecies clearly deal with the time after TG (which makes sense, considering that the Prophecies shall foreshadow events in the books). Therefore it's more likely that also Nicola's foretelling deals with a battle and events before or during TG. It seems pretty absurd to believe that this Prophecy casually tells that TG will be won, but that the future of the world is still undecided, especially when other Prophecies (or comments by RJ) make clear that Rand has only a chance to win TG to save the world.


It's the exact same thing as Min's viewings ... there won't be a Pattern if they lose TG so the Foretellings are only valid IF Rand wins.

Nicola's Foretellings seem very obviously post TG. "The Great Battle done, but the world not done with battle" or something (sorry I'm at works so I don't have the quote handy).

No reason to think that TG is in fact the last battle... given the nature of the Pattern it's inherently NOT.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Will there be a 'Shadar Nor' after the Last Battle? Sidious - 30/06/2010 05:41:22 PM 1909 Views
I hope it's more of a committee! darius_sedai - 30/06/2010 05:49:57 PM 1141 Views
"No time to debate this with the committee" *NM* Sidious - 30/06/2010 09:45:24 PM 886 Views
"I am NOT a committee!" *NM* Froggles - 30/06/2010 10:04:15 PM 967 Views
*NM* Sidious - 01/07/2010 08:53:55 AM 894 Views
Nicola's foretelling Etzel - 01/07/2010 02:02:22 PM 964 Views
I disagree darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:55:29 PM 907 Views
Nothing really suggests that it is after TG. Etzel - 01/07/2010 04:30:29 PM 935 Views
Re: Nothing really suggests that it is after TG. darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 06:10:03 PM 958 Views
As said, the great battle could very well be another battle, not TG itself Etzel - 02/07/2010 07:15:46 AM 857 Views
I don't think that makes snese darius_sedai - 02/07/2010 03:21:45 PM 1121 Views
I have to agree with Etzel on this one DomA - 02/07/2010 11:50:29 PM 1101 Views
Just want to point one thing out... QueenOfAndor - 02/07/2010 03:37:24 AM 875 Views
cooperate yes, follow no *NM* darius_sedai - 02/07/2010 03:47:22 AM 474 Views
It's RJ's series, so probably Lini or Mistress Anan. In a PROPER tale, it would have been... Shannow - 30/06/2010 08:35:34 PM 1150 Views
Lol Sidious - 30/06/2010 09:46:06 PM 938 Views
Nah, that was HP. Already used, can't do that here. Artsapat - 02/07/2010 11:50:17 AM 871 Views
Crivens! Comet Sedai - 01/07/2010 12:43:08 AM 926 Views
*NM* car'a'aman - 01/07/2010 08:13:17 AM 450 Views
Perhaps RJ meant for it to be Mat and Tuon (i.e. in the outriggers). *NM* RandAllThor - 30/06/2010 09:07:51 PM 487 Views
That would be kind of good I guess *NM* Sidious - 30/06/2010 09:46:34 PM 504 Views
According to RJ, those outriggers are rather about the reconquest of Seanchan. *NM* Etzel - 01/07/2010 09:15:04 AM 488 Views
Right, but they don't only need to be about that, i.e. perhaps the DO's remnants regroup there. *NM* RandAllThor - 01/07/2010 07:11:16 PM 468 Views
Hmm. Who WILL finish the victory over the Dark One by killing Egwene? *NM* Cannoli - 30/06/2010 09:18:08 PM 556 Views
Egwene is the Creator *NM* Sidious - 30/06/2010 09:47:09 PM 500 Views
I think the Shadow will utterly be defeated at TG Etzel - 01/07/2010 09:14:16 AM 910 Views
Potentially darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 03:58:51 PM 936 Views
Don't think so... Etzel - 01/07/2010 04:35:18 PM 922 Views
I don't think so darius_sedai - 01/07/2010 06:11:18 PM 871 Views
I think the Dark One will be defeated, but the Shadow will always exist RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/07/2010 02:47:23 PM 927 Views
This is how I see it too darius_sedai - 02/07/2010 03:25:23 PM 900 Views
Re: This is how I see it too DomA - 02/07/2010 11:34:01 PM 930 Views
Re: I think the Dark One will be defeated, but the Shadow will always exist orius - 03/07/2010 09:05:23 AM 825 Views
In my view... Etzel - 03/07/2010 11:39:07 AM 933 Views
Re: In my view... orius - 04/07/2010 05:45:44 AM 1007 Views
Then why weren't they all dead the first time the Dark One was sealed? Hieshyn - 05/07/2010 02:44:49 AM 1710 Views
IMO... Etzel - 05/07/2010 08:49:33 AM 907 Views
Re: IMO... orius - 06/07/2010 04:28:40 AM 862 Views
It would probably be Egwene, followed by Narishma RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/07/2010 01:38:09 PM 1071 Views
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