What if Rand had known he was going to be a dad?
CatherineSedai Send a noteboard - 20/07/2010 01:58:55 AM
Do you think this news might have brought about a similar change of Rand as the change we saw at the end of TGS?
I don't like that Elayne hasn't told him, but that aside, I think that knowing he would be a father would have had a similar effect as seeing his own father again. Where Cadsuane's plan almost went wrong, IMO, is that she reminded him of love and family in a way that would also remind him of what had been lost to him; his father who he cannot be seen to rely on, his home that he cannot return to for fear of endangering it, and his old life that didn't end in "certain" death in his 20s.
Perhaps learning that he would be a father would have reminded him of love and family in a way that allowed him to look forward for the first time. He's so busy trying to do everything right now that he hasn't looked towards the LB much, and he has been trying not to look back for the pain of it.
Wouldn't it have made him want to win the LB for the right reasons: the safety of his progeny and his family? Of every family and child in the world? Wouldn't his "certain death" have a positive, personal meaning?
I'm certain that it was relevant to the next novels that he thought about Ilyena, and that he tried to kill Tam, and that Tam and Rand are now reunited. I just thought that perhaps this would have been a similar and possibly more effective means to an end - and one nobody (Cadsuane) would have had to contrive at that. Thoughts?
I don't like that Elayne hasn't told him, but that aside, I think that knowing he would be a father would have had a similar effect as seeing his own father again. Where Cadsuane's plan almost went wrong, IMO, is that she reminded him of love and family in a way that would also remind him of what had been lost to him; his father who he cannot be seen to rely on, his home that he cannot return to for fear of endangering it, and his old life that didn't end in "certain" death in his 20s.
Perhaps learning that he would be a father would have reminded him of love and family in a way that allowed him to look forward for the first time. He's so busy trying to do everything right now that he hasn't looked towards the LB much, and he has been trying not to look back for the pain of it.
Wouldn't it have made him want to win the LB for the right reasons: the safety of his progeny and his family? Of every family and child in the world? Wouldn't his "certain death" have a positive, personal meaning?
I'm certain that it was relevant to the next novels that he thought about Ilyena, and that he tried to kill Tam, and that Tam and Rand are now reunited. I just thought that perhaps this would have been a similar and possibly more effective means to an end - and one nobody (Cadsuane) would have had to contrive at that. Thoughts?
I always say, if you must mount the gallows, give a jest to the crowd, a coin to the hangman, and make the drop with a smile on your lips. ~Birgitte
This message last edited by CatherineSedai on 20/07/2010 at 02:22:49 AM
What if Rand had known he was going to be a dad?
- 20/07/2010 01:58:55 AM
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Rand wasn't ready for this before DM in TGS
- 20/07/2010 05:27:32 AM
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Do you think Cadsuanes lesson has been learned now?
- 20/07/2010 06:44:36 AM
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I see what you're saying
- 20/07/2010 07:14:47 AM
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Even if that were true, Elayne still should have told Rand.
- 21/07/2010 04:33:50 AM
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How should she have tried? Nynaeve was avoiding dream contact, and she has months to go yet.
- 22/07/2010 01:02:28 AM
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