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Re: perhaps I've just lumped it into the Jewish mysticism view dacole Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 06:21:29 PM
I am very very protestant so it may be part of Catholicism which is much more mystical from the little research I have done than I expected. I have never heard of it though. Will look it up if I can find the time, is a rather interesting concept actually.

Hmm not in any version of Christianity I have seen...as far as I know souls are created when a child is concieved in most forms of christianity. We don't really have a concept of reincarnation..need to check out the seventh sign haven't seen that.


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Hmm. Well one thing you did not mention is Ishamaels threat to take Rands soul in TDR. Assuming that Ishy was not just making an empty threat (and the description of what Rand feels suggests not) then TP does have the ability manipulate souls. Ofcourse that does not necessarily mean that TP can be used to destroy souls, Ishy could just have been trying to imprison Rand's soul rather than destroy it.

Another case like that is the duel with Asmodean. Rand claims that Asmodean using the CK was trying to rip out his soul. Though again the description could be an exaggeration.


One thing that I do wonder, is there anything to suggest that the pattern can create entirely new souls out of nothing? Or were ALL souls made in the very beginning. Basically if the pattern cannot create new souls, and souls can be destroyed, and the wheel turns sufficiently long, then eventually the pattern will run out of souls. What would happen if someone gets pregnant when there are no more souls left.


I believe this is actually a concept the Jewish and Christian religions talk about (the Chamber of the Guph)... interesting thought actually ...


It could well be a concept rejected by Christians when they split off to follow Jesus.

The movie is from the late 80's and stars Demi Moore! It certainly makes the concept of the Guph seem a part of the book of Revelations.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096073/
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