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Re: Hmm, I doubt it... DomA Send a noteboard - 28/07/2010 12:47:33 AM
who else should be such important for Nynaeve that she is specifically seen griefing about the death.


Rand, rather obviously.

Nyaneve is up to two things: trying to save Lan's life, and doing her best to prevent Rand's death. She'd grieve badly for either, Lan more for heart reasons, Rand more because she'd blame herself and see that as a huge failure on her part, and because he's one of her people and she feels responsible for all of them, for all that he's been so unpleasant with her recently she might start remembering Mat as a perfect role model for EF boys soon.

I think this new viewing is simply part of RJ's build up to the "man in a narrow cot (a funeral bier) who is not yet dead but is already believed dead while some grieve and build a funeral pyre outside and others rejoice at his demise already" dream, to the "he who is dead yets lives" foretelling, to the "three in a boat" dreams.

We almost know for sure that the ending of TOM will reunite Min, Aviendha, Elayne and Rand, and it's at an event that launches TG (what can it be but a "great battle"?).

I think RJ just added another piece of the foreshadowing puzzle with the viewing of Nynaeve grieving over a corpse (the same corpse who appears dead but isn't, which is apparent to all the Dreamers, but not to Min - she saw all three women around a dead Rand. Min is the one who never sees Rand as alive, perhaps because as part of a set up by RJ to delay the reveal that Rand is alive. Aviendha will mention the WO's dreams, but Min will say she always saw Rand dead. Nynaeve might feel no life left initially. It could be Egwene adding the weigh of her dreaming thay convinces the women Rand isn't really dead, that Nynaeve must top grieving and go on trying to bring him back.
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tGS: Chapter 81 comment from BS (*spoilers*?) - 27/07/2010 03:57:34 AM 1903 Views
Yeah, I saw that. - 27/07/2010 04:03:34 AM 1018 Views
Well I don't think it was too big of a scene or RJ would have written it I think. - 27/07/2010 04:11:01 AM 863 Views
Re: Well I don't think it was too big of a scene or RJ would have written it I think. - 27/07/2010 05:17:22 AM 847 Views
Re: Well I don't think it was too big of a scene or RJ would have written it I think. - 27/07/2010 09:18:54 AM 738 Views
Yeah, BS said on Twitter... - 27/07/2010 09:47:41 AM 883 Views
Again! - 27/07/2010 11:41:33 PM 856 Views
Re: Yeah, I saw that. - 27/07/2010 05:28:53 AM 831 Views
Yeah, I wondered about that... - 27/07/2010 05:02:27 PM 694 Views
Re: Yeah, I wondered about that... - 28/07/2010 04:04:06 AM 633 Views
... and 94 chapters - 27/07/2010 04:04:51 AM 864 Views
Thats a lot of chapters *NM* - 27/07/2010 05:16:35 AM 331 Views
Ouch.... - 27/07/2010 05:48:13 AM 858 Views
BS twittered then, though... - 27/07/2010 08:15:06 AM 783 Views
Re: BS twittered then, though... - 27/07/2010 05:20:56 PM 685 Views
Re: BS twittered then, though... - 28/07/2010 12:01:26 AM 772 Views
Don't you mean aMoL: Ch 81? - 27/07/2010 08:38:30 PM 732 Views
The next book, Towers of Midnight, is meant. *NM* - 27/07/2010 10:24:43 PM 333 Views
Re: The next book, Towers of Midnight, is meant. - 27/07/2010 11:28:51 PM 686 Views
Now he said... - 28/07/2010 08:32:17 AM 788 Views
rock on *NM* - 27/07/2010 04:05:48 AM 311 Views
Hmm, Lan's death? - 27/07/2010 08:09:25 AM 753 Views
sure, why not. my only problem is... - 27/07/2010 08:58:06 AM 730 Views
I hope you are right. - 27/07/2010 09:19:44 AM 753 Views
I don't think he will die - 27/07/2010 11:07:27 AM 761 Views
I think if Lan dies... - 27/07/2010 09:45:05 AM 749 Views
I was thinking Cadsuane *NM* - 27/07/2010 10:46:26 AM 336 Views
Also possible, of course - 27/07/2010 10:58:34 AM 725 Views
I don't consider it foreshadowing - 27/07/2010 11:15:37 AM 643 Views
Hmm, I doubt it... - 27/07/2010 11:25:57 AM 669 Views
Re: Hmm, I doubt it... - 28/07/2010 12:47:33 AM 673 Views
Either Lan or Rand, I guess. *NM* - 28/07/2010 08:02:37 AM 316 Views
Or... - 31/07/2010 02:59:22 AM 641 Views
It sounds a bit early for Lan's death - 28/07/2010 12:25:47 AM 853 Views
Oh, I like this. - 28/07/2010 01:35:48 AM 702 Views
I do too. - 28/07/2010 01:43:12 PM 634 Views
Perhaps, too early, yes... - 28/07/2010 07:57:34 AM 643 Views
Re: It sounds a bit early for Lan's death - 28/07/2010 08:43:31 AM 649 Views
RJ/ Harriet should have picked you, Dom... - 28/07/2010 08:47:34 AM 663 Views
The death of Elayne? Or Min? - 27/07/2010 02:47:11 PM 737 Views
The problem with this idea is... - 27/07/2010 04:26:33 PM 694 Views
rand's fake death. from a POV that thinks he died for real *NM* - 27/07/2010 07:07:00 PM 346 Views
this is what i was just thinking *NM* - 27/07/2010 10:27:12 PM 302 Views
My bets are on Rand's actual death - 30/07/2010 07:40:06 AM 683 Views
Lan's death and Nynaeve's reaction would fit "heart-wrenching", Cadsuane's not so much for most *NM* - 29/07/2010 03:50:34 PM 290 Views
Certainly - 29/07/2010 05:34:11 PM 640 Views

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