Noone betrayed 'Cadsuane'-That was just a happy side affect (for the DO)
RabidWombat Send a noteboard - 15/08/2010 08:22:59 AM
BS has confirmed that Elza stole the dark bands using weaves she learned from presumably Greandal, Lanfear, or Moggy. Elza did not need to know the weaves that Cadsuane wove to do this.
I agree with Cadsuane's thoughts on this. The DO was definitely after some other purpose then just collaring Rand. (He could have gotten the dark bands some other way much easier.) Cadsauane debates whether or not the true purpose was to get the access key back in Rand's hands.
I don't know whether or not that was the true purpose or accidental since Elza was the one who broke into Cadsuane's apartment to get it. (Maybe Elza didn't recognize the access key or her instructions were so specific that she ignored it. Or may Verin's compulsion played a role in her not taking it.
In any case, I suspect some wise one complicity since Cadsuane was out in the Aiel camps visiting WO during that time. Plus it would be useful for the DO to KNOW for certain that the dark bands truly were in Cadsuane's room and perhaps to find out where they were.
I am hesitant to suspect Sorilea, so my first guess it Bair. It is equally likely that neither are DF, though.
RabidWombat
I agree with Cadsuane's thoughts on this. The DO was definitely after some other purpose then just collaring Rand. (He could have gotten the dark bands some other way much easier.) Cadsauane debates whether or not the true purpose was to get the access key back in Rand's hands.
I don't know whether or not that was the true purpose or accidental since Elza was the one who broke into Cadsuane's apartment to get it. (Maybe Elza didn't recognize the access key or her instructions were so specific that she ignored it. Or may Verin's compulsion played a role in her not taking it.
In any case, I suspect some wise one complicity since Cadsuane was out in the Aiel camps visiting WO during that time. Plus it would be useful for the DO to KNOW for certain that the dark bands truly were in Cadsuane's room and perhaps to find out where they were.
I am hesitant to suspect Sorilea, so my first guess it Bair. It is equally likely that neither are DF, though.
RabidWombat
Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
12/08/2010 09:49:32 AM
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it's been discussed a lot
12/08/2010 11:00:06 AM
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Really? All the questions it poses?
12/08/2010 11:06:11 AM
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Havent seen this exact discussion before either.. *NM*
12/08/2010 11:06:45 AM
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see my further reply =oP I'm 13% less of a jerkface than it looks *NM*
12/08/2010 12:10:28 PM
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Re: Really? All the questions it poses?
12/08/2010 11:56:26 AM
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not really
12/08/2010 02:08:41 PM
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Yep, pretty much. Otherwise he could have just nullified the Compulsions' lingering effect on Elza
12/08/2010 02:11:24 PM
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As demonstrated in TGS...
12/08/2010 05:27:21 PM
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We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal with that weave
12/08/2010 07:16:30 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
12/08/2010 08:21:32 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
12/08/2010 08:32:41 PM
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Re: We don't know that about Compulsion - we are talking about 2 different ways to deal
13/08/2010 06:51:45 AM
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I replied to the topic before you edited to ask all the extra questions
12/08/2010 12:08:27 PM
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Both Bair and Sorilea knew
12/08/2010 10:33:59 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
12/08/2010 02:43:23 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
12/08/2010 05:42:00 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
12/08/2010 08:06:25 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
12/08/2010 08:20:44 PM
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Re: Who betrayed Cadsuane by stealing the male adam and CK?
12/08/2010 08:32:21 PM
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Who most wanted to get rid of Cadsuane BESIDES Rand?
12/08/2010 09:01:44 PM
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Can't be Sorilea
13/08/2010 11:50:53 AM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
13/08/2010 08:46:02 PM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
14/08/2010 12:00:40 AM
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Re: Can't be Sorilea
14/08/2010 12:34:18 AM
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Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves
15/08/2010 01:53:27 AM
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Re: Not necessarily, Sorilea still could have watched Cadsuane untie the weaves
15/08/2010 12:53:42 PM
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I think that Couladin was a dark friend.
13/08/2010 03:00:20 AM
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I'd be surprised, actually.
13/08/2010 05:34:13 AM
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Couladin and Asmodean
13/08/2010 08:33:38 AM
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Re: Couladin and Asmodean
13/08/2010 04:45:21 PM
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Couldin isn't intolerant. He's murderously xenophobic.
14/08/2010 05:45:15 PM
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Almost ALL of the Aiel were murderously Xenophobic before Rand united them. *NM*
15/08/2010 01:00:37 PM
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Noone betrayed 'Cadsuane'-That was just a happy side affect (for the DO)
15/08/2010 08:22:59 AM
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*Sigh* it is 2:20 AM so this is a double post. (You can ignore this one) *NM* *NM*
15/08/2010 08:23:49 AM
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