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No, I don't think so Sidious Send a noteboard - 20/08/2010 04:48:58 PM
Moiraine will have to succeed in establishing her dominance primarily through the force of her personality. But among Aes Sedai, inferior strength in the Power will make it all the more difficult to establish supremacy.

Being stronger in the Power is a pre requisite. Using that to hammer down her dominance will then be up to her. Nynaeve cannot do it. But Moiraine could - if she had Nynaeve's strength.

Hence, starting off with say double Cadsuane's strength will give Moiraine a huge advantage from the word go.


Nynaeve gets no respect from Caddy at all. Yet Daigian and especially Soriliea do, despite being waaay weaker than Nynaeve. What does that tell you about the woman? Seriously, read the series sometime.


She doesn't consider Nynaeve to be an Aes Sedai. That much is clear in the text. Cadsuane likes Daigian as a person but pities her, she doesn't respect her. She sees Sorilea as a woman of equal stature from another culture.

Cadsuane definitely doesn't respect people based on their abilities with saidar, but if someone was stronger than her she would be compelled to obey that person, unless she wishes to break Tower customs.

Still, I do think Shannow's evaluation is a little one dimensional here. If Moiraine was as strong as Nynaeve it would only cause deference in Cadsuane but certainly nothing else. IMO Cadsuane will be in charge of Moiraine as surely as she was in NS, but she won't enforce herself because of the respect she would have gained after hearing of her heroic deeds.
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she won't be more powerful because there's no need for her to be more powerful Deadsy - 18/08/2010 01:18:56 PM 745 Views
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her body but stilled or burned out. *NM* nigelgoboom - 18/08/2010 03:07:15 PM 338 Views
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I hope she's just her same old self. Seriana Sedai - 18/08/2010 08:41:18 PM 791 Views
The Mahdi *NM* damookster - 19/08/2010 03:21:25 AM 354 Views
This town ain't big enough for Moiraine AND Cadsuane. So Moiraine has to be more powerful than Caddy Shannow - 19/08/2010 12:19:17 PM 751 Views
Ya. Super-Mo is really going to scare her when the most powerful channeler in the world doesn't. *NM* Deadsy - 19/08/2010 01:26:46 PM 366 Views
It's a different matter among Aes Sedai Shannow - 19/08/2010 03:01:43 PM 698 Views
it will be a non issue *NM* Deadsy - 19/08/2010 03:30:18 PM 349 Views
What crock... fionwe1987 - 19/08/2010 09:50:34 PM 763 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 20/08/2010 04:48:58 PM 773 Views
Didn't they say in New Spring that Moiraine's potential is stronger than Cadsuane? Seriana Sedai - 20/08/2010 02:24:16 AM 736 Views
I don't think so malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:09:54 AM 710 Views
Ahhh. Makes sense. Seriana Sedai - 21/08/2010 07:27:32 AM 698 Views
Ahem NaClH2O - 20/08/2010 11:54:47 AM 714 Views
Seriana Sedai - 21/08/2010 07:24:04 AM 648 Views
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Re: NaClH2O - 23/08/2010 12:06:02 AM 828 Views
Rand fired Caddy. The position is open. Nothing for Mo to fight Caddy for. NaClH2O - 19/08/2010 04:44:38 PM 719 Views
Exactly. Seriana Sedai - 20/08/2010 02:15:04 AM 785 Views
Hi 'Shelle! *NM* NaClH2O - 20/08/2010 11:44:48 AM 350 Views
That's before Rand had his "buddha" experience on Dragonmount. He now loves everyone... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:59:41 AM 752 Views
And you know this how? You heard him speaking ex-cathedra from your navel? NaClH2O - 20/08/2010 11:51:03 AM 708 Views
Re: And you know this how? You heard him speaking ex-cathedra from your navel? malekithe - 21/08/2010 08:14:49 AM 709 Views
Re: And you know this how? You heard him speaking ex-cathedra from your navel? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 12:47:26 PM 753 Views
Not outmuscling, but outsmarting. Should not be any difficulty whatsoever for Moiraine BlackAdder - 19/08/2010 07:45:08 PM 673 Views
Actually, very difficult... fionwe1987 - 19/08/2010 09:51:36 PM 702 Views
How did she escape from Caddy's entourage in New Spring? BlackAdder - 19/08/2010 09:59:27 PM 716 Views
Well... fionwe1987 - 19/08/2010 10:19:17 PM 702 Views
It's not Mo's or Caddy's choice, its Rand's NaClH2O - 20/08/2010 12:09:45 PM 703 Views
Sure. Just like he "chose" to have Cadsuane force herself into his entourage... Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:39:40 PM 661 Views
But he fired her didn't he. She was the one who hung around, with her face hidden. "NM" NaClH2O - 20/08/2010 03:20:25 PM 673 Views
Yes, sunshine. After he was contaminated by the True Power and descended into madness... Shannow - 20/08/2010 04:02:27 PM 684 Views
he was mad well before he channeled TP, cupcake NaClH2O - 20/08/2010 04:35:00 PM 681 Views
As you like. Your definition of "choice" is a rather loose one, though. Shannow - 20/08/2010 04:40:19 PM 655 Views
except that the "tumor" saved his life at least once "NM" NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 12:49:22 PM 720 Views
Re: Who will Moiraine come back as? aragornital - 19/08/2010 01:44:02 PM 750 Views
What if she came out broken? Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 04:25:14 AM 663 Views
Ted McGinley. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 22/08/2010 10:00:21 PM 350 Views
Re: Who will Moiraine come back as? Keira - 25/08/2010 04:34:32 AM 655 Views
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