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What would be the trio of masculine archetypes, and how would the ta'veren fit them? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 05/09/2010 12:01:09 AM
It has been discussed on this board and the wotmania MB & TP in great detail how Rand's love interests fit the famous trio of feminine archetypes (Maiden, Mother and Crone), but what is the masculine equivalent? I would assume that RJ, particularly with his mythological references in mind, would have made some effort to maintain such a pattern, if there is one generally accepted, so how do Rand, Mat and Perrin fit into it? And if it can be expanded into a quartet of archetypes as the female set usually can, which character would be the fourth? Lan? Thom? Loial? Moridin? Is the last a trio unto himself (Ishamael, Ba'alzamon, Moridin) or could be taken to represent the stages of some grim progression of mental and moral degeneration in each of his identities?

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What would be the trio of masculine archetypes, and how would the ta'veren fit them? Cannoli - 05/09/2010 12:01:09 AM 1290 Views
I can't think of any mythological trio of masculine types... LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 12:30:13 AM 935 Views
Re: I can't think of any mythological trio of masculine types... Lord Haart - 05/09/2010 01:22:33 AM 698 Views
Hmm, that kind of works...although Rand is a horrid Wizard LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 02:12:41 AM 682 Views
there's a duo of masculine types Yunalesca - 05/09/2010 01:29:41 AM 713 Views
Ooo I forgot about the Trinity LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 02:13:33 AM 708 Views
Re: Ooo I forgot about the Trinity Cannoli - 05/09/2010 06:22:35 AM 749 Views
i do know all three members, thank you. LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 02:43:31 PM 652 Views
The fact that you would call the Holy Ghost a vessel in that sense shows how little you know Cannoli - 05/09/2010 07:55:57 PM 651 Views
then I'm sorry I've misinterpreted LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 09:43:06 PM 571 Views
Re: The fact that you would call the Holy Ghost a vessel in that sense shows how little you know Fanatic-Templar - 05/09/2010 10:20:11 PM 610 Views
Reformed Manichean. Never trust a convert, is my father's motto. Cannoli - 06/09/2010 01:08:28 AM 768 Views
well sorry I misunderstood then LadyLorraine - 06/09/2010 12:14:13 AM 576 Views
You have the mythology wrong, was my main point. Cannoli - 06/09/2010 01:07:01 AM 575 Views
I wonder if those are the archetypes on which the buddy-cop dynamic is based. Cannoli - 05/09/2010 06:33:56 AM 603 Views
Take a look at Nordic Mythos Ryan - 05/09/2010 05:41:08 AM 653 Views
Actually, I'd switch Rand and Perrin in that equation. Cannoli - 05/09/2010 06:28:16 AM 756 Views
yah all of that makes more sense LadyLorraine - 05/09/2010 02:44:39 PM 611 Views
Re: Take a look at Nordic Mythos orius - 05/09/2010 07:18:22 AM 564 Views
there are elements of all 3 in each of the Ta'veren darius_sedai - 05/09/2010 03:12:53 PM 556 Views
Yes, Odin, Thor and Tyr were the centre trio of nordic mythology. Fanatic-Templar - 05/09/2010 06:25:51 PM 780 Views
Perrin is Ilmarinen, Rand is Väinämöinen and Mat is Joukahainen Lordling - 05/09/2010 11:47:48 AM 635 Views
Those who Work, those who fight and those who pray. krassos - 06/09/2010 04:28:29 AM 632 Views
The Father, the Wanderer and the Wise Old Man are in most myths and Jung wrote a lot about them RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/09/2010 07:57:28 PM 678 Views
norse mythology is the closest *NM* Facade - 07/09/2010 11:29:24 PM 276 Views
Yes, run and hide, sissy-boy. There's a reason Mom likes me better! *NM* Dark Cannoli'gar - 09/09/2010 12:39:13 AM 328 Views
The triad that corresponds very loosely to the Goddess triad DomA - 08/09/2010 03:41:50 AM 666 Views
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