Re: They might need traveling just to keep from going under to Trollocs coming out of the Coast - Edit 1
Before modification by Hot Pie at 28/09/2010 08:20:24 PM
I agree for the most part about the Seanchan being the major upcoming antagonist, mainly just for this book though. It seems only proper that the shadow and their forces are the main antagonist of the last book. This isn't to say that the Seanchan won't still be antagonist going into AMOL, but that's obviously not going to last.
Correct me where I'm wrong but my theory is it will be the Seanchan who launch their second major offensive on Caemlynn/BT with Traveling this time. In TGS when they were discussing their assault on the WT, there was another map mentioned but of course weren't told what it was. It's either the BT or Caemlyn. So the thinking is once they get Traveling and they will get it in time for everything that needs to happen happens at Caemlyn in the climax.
How all this will fit in with Mat away at the TOG and a battle raging at Caemlyn or about to commence I don't know how this timeline will work out. Will Mat make it back before the battle starts, during or after? It would be a huge disapointment if he missed it. His relief in the spoiler chapter 'The Seventh Striped' lass about not having to be at the Succession War seem to be major foreshadowing that next time there's a battle at Caemlyn he won't be so lucky.
So a huge battle with (fingers crossed) Mat's canons defending Caemlyn and annihilating the Seanchan at the battle of Caemlyn with both sides suffering defeasting defeats nonetheless. This would fit with this book being even darken than TGS. The epilogue of the book is swapping between the main players of the light and how bleak and beat down they are after this disaster. And to top it off, Rand could possibly die here and that would make everything even more dire.
On the other hand, I could be totally wrong and it's all Trollocs/Dreadlords and shadowspawn that attack Caemlyn in monstrous numbers. Meanwhile the Seanchan are still sitting on their thumbs in Ebou Dar fuming in anger that The Dragon Reborn etc. still defy them when the LB is immenent and 'clearly' the Empress is going to lead the Light to victory and send the Dragon Reborn into SG to duel (major lol here) 'leafblighter' - sarcasm off. Regardless, this would be lame to the ninth if the Seanchan play no role in the upcoming battle. The plot required them to acquire Traveling so they could meet their destiny (of getting slaughtered with the Prince of Ravens canons baby) at Caemlyn imo.
Obviously Tuon didn't learn her lesson when she witnessed firsthand Mat's domination of the 'Ever Victorious Army'. Tuon's one of my favorite characters (because she's so fun with Mat) it just makes me sigh how she insist of conquering Randland when she knows they are good people (Mat) and also knows they aren't pushovers (Band of the Red Hand). Sadly, it will take her getting dominated again to 'see the Light'.
You might be right about Caemlyn coming under assault, although I'd like it more if turned into a battle of 5 armies scenario ala The Hobbit.
However you don't seem to take into account the mass invasion that the Seanchan lands will be suffering at the same time.
I don't take it into account because as far as the story is concerned, Seanchan mainland doesn't matter one bit. Sure we know it's in chaos blah blah blah, but that's all we'll ever know in this series focused on Randland and The Dragon Reborn. We might see thoughts from Tuon in the last chapters or epilogue of AMOL about her desire to return to Seandar. And of course this would require many books to conclude - ie: the outrigger novels Jordan planned for Mat & Tuon.
The only purpose the chaos in Seandar serves, as far as Tuon and the Empire is concerned, is to make things more dire for the Seanchan in Randland. No more troops from Seandar etc. Of course this means that if Tuon is going to fulfill the Seanchan peoples destiny as she sees it, she needs to act and act decisively to cripple Randland the same way she did with the WT at the end of the TGS. Her view on how to conduct her campaign will not change. Except this time the threat they pose is multiplied now that they have Traveling making any target vulnerable.
Anyways, to sum it up, I believe the Seanchan will Travel to Andor and attack the BT or Caemlyn in huge numbers and this will be the climax of TOM. How all this works out, who can say? I do agree with Doma however that regardless of what the Seanchan do in this book we won't be seeing any efforts of an alliance. The best thing to hope for is to possibly start seeing doubts and the seeds of the possibility and more importantly, the need of an alliance with Team Light in the mind of Tuon. She needs to start realizing how much an idiot she (Tuon) is and that should really start to ramp up in this book when more information becomes available to her and she's not in complete ignorance of whats really going on around here. To hear her tell it in her mind the fight against the Shadow will be a cakewalk and her eyes need to be opened and I think Robert Jordan intended to that in his own time, for added suspense of course
