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It was a calculated risk, but the wrong bet. Joel Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 03:57:32 PM
I think it's safe to say we've seen the DO make a few mistakes (the biggest of which will probably prove to be creating Padan Fain. )


There was no way for the DO to foresee Fain being "corrupted" () by Shadar Logoth.

Law of Unintended Consequences. There was no way to foresee it, no, but had the DO not done what he did it wouldn't have been possible, and in the end it looks like it may prove the Shadow's undoing.


The Law is dumb. Sure it's applicable, but it doesn't make every action a mistake just because some unforeseen difficulty arises.

The chance of Fain coming in contact with Mordeth was laughably small. It was about the same probability that an Aes Sedai would show up just in time to save them and thwart their plans. It would have been a mistake not to create a Hound of the Shadow. Without Fain, Moiraine would have arrived at the Two Rivers, and left with the boys unopposed, making it that much harder to track them down.

I guess I just have a different definition for "mistake". The DO might regret it, but hindsight is 20/20. At the time, it was the best course of action.

Bad cost benefit analysis, IMHO. The risk of Padeth may have been small, but it was real, and probably catastrophic for the DO in the end. Conversely, the risk of Mo getting to Rand before the DO was much higher, but it's not game, set and match if that happens; he's still got very good chances of eventual victory. So it surely seemed like a good idea at the time, and probably still does. I just don't think it will turn out to be in the end.
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Why is there a loophole in the Dark Oaths? malekithe - 29/09/2010 08:35:55 AM 1402 Views
Re: Why is there a loophole in the Dark Oaths? lodlom - 29/09/2010 11:52:10 AM 963 Views
That makes no sense. Narg - 29/09/2010 02:28:33 PM 879 Views
Squeeze an item too hard, and it will find a way to escape. lodlom - 29/09/2010 05:54:50 PM 966 Views
As far as we know, they're just regular Oath Rod oaths. There's no surveillance beetnemesis - 29/09/2010 09:50:16 PM 840 Views
It's poetic. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 29/09/2010 11:59:05 AM 354 Views
agreed. "The hour of my death" sounds more threatening and foreboding. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 29/09/2010 09:33:38 PM 344 Views
The Forsaken that created the Oaths in the first place must have messed up RugbyPlayingAshaman - 29/09/2010 03:14:30 PM 889 Views
Most likely alanna aes sedai - 29/09/2010 05:43:38 PM 998 Views
Although given how we know Oaths work, they wouldn't have to die. beetnemesis - 29/09/2010 09:55:22 PM 787 Views
Good point. I didn't look at it that way. *NM* alanna aes sedai - 30/09/2010 01:39:33 AM 426 Views
It's really, really stupid beetnemesis - 29/09/2010 09:58:51 PM 822 Views
As with many previous similar debates regarding the Shadow BlackAdder - 29/09/2010 10:18:03 PM 805 Views
Hah, Either they're SO SMART we just don't realize it... or they're idiots beetnemesis - 01/10/2010 10:11:42 PM 709 Views
Jordan needed it this way to be able to write the deeply moving Verin confession scene Zeratul - 29/09/2010 10:39:22 PM 817 Views
LOL *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/09/2010 04:16:35 PM 338 Views
it's not so much that they are dumb... they just have no common sense! darius_sedai - 30/09/2010 05:57:03 PM 832 Views
It's less stupid than you think Marshall - 29/09/2010 11:51:34 PM 862 Views
With the Black Ajah, you either agree to join, or you're murdered beetnemesis - 01/10/2010 10:16:41 PM 734 Views
Translation error rAndy aL - 30/09/2010 01:02:06 AM 898 Views
This would be awesome if true. Unfortunately, I don't think it is beetnemesis - 01/10/2010 10:20:20 PM 718 Views
Re: Why is there a loophole in the Dark Oaths? Demortae - 30/09/2010 04:20:05 PM 866 Views
Re: Why is there a loophole in the Dark Oaths? malekithe - 30/09/2010 10:13:25 PM 803 Views
Re: Why is there a loophole in the Dark Oaths? BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 10:38:11 PM 835 Views
Re: Why is there a loophole in the Dark Oaths? Demortae - 30/09/2010 11:52:40 PM 806 Views
Because no one is perfect. Joel - 01/10/2010 03:06:14 AM 692 Views
Padan Fain wasn't a mistake. Gher - 01/10/2010 03:56:28 AM 770 Views
Sure he was. Joel - 01/10/2010 05:22:09 AM 766 Views
Re: Sure he was. malekithe - 01/10/2010 06:39:26 AM 737 Views
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Joel - 01/10/2010 07:13:03 AM 758 Views
I always hate that saying..ignorance is bliss! So it should be a valid excuse! malekithe - 01/10/2010 07:36:52 AM 762 Views
Happiness is also not an excuse. Joel - 01/10/2010 09:32:18 AM 696 Views
That's not a mistake, that's bad luck (Yay for the Pattern ) Gher - 01/10/2010 03:48:32 PM 790 Views
It was a calculated risk, but the wrong bet. Joel - 01/10/2010 03:57:32 PM 755 Views
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