Re: The wording of the Oaths seems to make it easy for Mesaana to get around them.
dilli Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 10:57:22 PM
I was looking at a few times when we see an Aes Sedai swearing the Oaths, and I noticed that each oath begins with "Under the Light".
So is it dumb to suggest that Mesaana simply swore "under the Light" when she saw no reason to think of herself as under the Light? The Forsaken view themselves as more than human, and are actively trying to destroy the Light. Perhaps Mesaana didn't see an Oath made under the Light as relevant or binding to her, and so the Oath Rod never kicked in.
The same would apply to the oath "By the Light and my hope of salvation and rebirth..." Mesaana or any other Forsaken (or any smart Darkfriend, really) would not hope for salvation or rebirth. They want to rule forever in this life, not die and be reborn.
So is it dumb to suggest that Mesaana simply swore "under the Light" when she saw no reason to think of herself as under the Light? The Forsaken view themselves as more than human, and are actively trying to destroy the Light. Perhaps Mesaana didn't see an Oath made under the Light as relevant or binding to her, and so the Oath Rod never kicked in.
The same would apply to the oath "By the Light and my hope of salvation and rebirth..." Mesaana or any other Forsaken (or any smart Darkfriend, really) would not hope for salvation or rebirth. They want to rule forever in this life, not die and be reborn.
The way that Mesaana could've avoided the oath is simlpe : she is supposed to swear that she is either (don't recall the wording) Not a Darkfriend or Not of the Black Ajah. And to either of those questions she can simply say no since she is of the Chosen. The questions/oath should ask "Do you serve the Dark One" or some such.
Mesaana: Beating the Oath Rod
- 22/09/2010 03:10:59 AM
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"Beating the Oath Rod" - is that what they call it these days? *NM*
- 22/09/2010 04:25:01 AM
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ROFL! This almost made me spit 
onto my laptop. ppl in Starbucks are staring at me nao. 
*NM*
- 22/09/2010 04:47:56 PM
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onto my laptop. ppl in Starbucks are staring at me nao. *NM*
- 22/09/2010 04:47:56 PM
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How do you know so much Moiraine?
- 22/09/2010 05:33:37 AM
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To post a serious answer of my own: I assumed Darkfriends in the servants.
- 22/09/2010 02:18:54 PM
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Moiraine has Aelfinn and Eelfinn servants waiting on her? Maybe she won't want to leave.
- 22/09/2010 02:22:17 PM
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No, I replied to your very fragmentary response "I hope someone responds seriously". *NM*
- 26/09/2010 01:14:55 PM
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It's possible, but VERY few of the BA in the Rebels survived bc they were ambushed
- 22/09/2010 02:43:13 PM
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Okay, serious reply.
- 22/09/2010 04:09:19 PM
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Tiana ... And I suspect she was BA herself since we are later told Egwene would need a "proper MoN" *NM*
- 26/09/2010 03:26:16 PM
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She's not BA. She's just not capable. *NM*
- 26/09/2010 10:54:20 PM
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Re: She's not BA. She's just not capable.
- 26/09/2010 11:37:55 PM
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She was incompetent to show just how awesome Sharina is. Egwene always observed
- 27/09/2010 02:17:49 AM
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Re: She was incompetent to show just how awesome Sharina is. Egwene always observed
- 27/09/2010 03:01:43 AM
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Read Egwene's PoV in COT. Tiana is obviously disturbed by her. She defers without deferring. *NM*
- 27/09/2010 03:47:15 AM
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that was kind of my point, Sharina has no trouble deferring
- 27/09/2010 05:20:36 AM
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The Hall has no right to remove her...
- 27/09/2010 06:25:28 AM
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Regardless of who would remove Tiana from the post ...
- 27/09/2010 05:01:28 PM
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The wording of the Oaths seems to make it easy for Mesaana to get around them.
- 29/09/2010 04:43:51 AM
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Re: The wording of the Oaths seems to make it easy for Mesaana to get around them.
- 01/10/2010 10:57:22 PM
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Re: The wording of the Oaths seems to make it easy for Mesaana to get around them.
- 02/10/2010 01:07:25 AM
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She doesn't have to beat the Oath Rod
- 10/10/2010 07:25:46 PM
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