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Re: You seem to mistake "plan" with "goal" DomA Send a noteboard - 14/10/2010 11:06:14 PM
In the immortal words of the computer kid and Bruce Willis from the latest Die Hard movie:

Computer kid: "Do you have a plan?"

Bruce Willis "Find that so and so and kill him"

Computer kid: "I meant a plan as in a way to do that"


Lanfear's goal was to control Rand. Her plan for doing so was absolutely foolish. Rhavin's goal was to control the most powerful nation in Randland. Rhavin's plan for doing so was no more foolish than Lanfear's.

Lanfear's goal may have been reasonable, but her plan was downright laughable. Her goal was not any more reasonable than Rhavin's, and her plan was just as ridiculous.


You don't seem to have read what I wrote, as it's exactly what I argued. She had a good plan and the goal this plan was trying to accomplish was perfectly in line with what Ishamael and Shai'tan seem to want, but she was pathetic at implementing her plan because she totally overestimated the effects she would have on Rand, and that crucial bit didn't worked out as she expected. Her whole plan hinged on him falling in love with her easily. He gave her every sign of rejecting her in Tear, and still she deluded herself this was almost a done deal and Rand was soon to be in her pocket. It's Lanfear, not her plan, that was foolish. I mean honestly... for a woman like her seducing a 18 y.o. with raging hormones was far from a foolish plan, and making herself rare and leaving Rand to start desiring her presence was a better tactic than constantly trying to seduce him. The odds were she'd achieve the seduction without breaking a sweat. She just picked the rare teenager who wouldn't fall in love with her just by watching her and getting her attention!



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