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Re: "Name a Forsaken..." (edit) Skeeve the Great Send a noteboard - 17/10/2010 02:57:45 AM

It's exactly as people say here, they are cartoon villians: "I have you powerless in my grasp young Rand. You are handcuffed, blinded, gagged & shielded, so now I will tell you my master plan before I kill you!".
Name a Forsaken who has had the good guys as a direct captive for more than a couple of minutes. Or ANY WoT character, besides Rand, who has ever told people everything. In any event, they ARE realistic villains.

Be'lal. whose overwhelming greed for a sa'angreal (who you claim don't like that sort of thing) led him to pass the best opportunity in the series to kill rand. if he hadn't insisted on letting rand firstly take callandor to then take it from him and struck straight away without the whole laughable fighting scene then he would have had rand on a plate. but yeah he's the only one really


I would add the following:
-- Moggy, she could've just kill Elayne and Nynaeve instead of playing with them in Tanchico.
-- Aran'gar, s/he could've kill bunch of good guys in the camp easily, starting with Egwene.
-- Ishamael, he could've kill Mat and Perrin as soon as he figured out who the Dragon Reborn is. Granted, he didn't have them "captive", but at least he should've done the orders to kill them much much earlier, not in KoD.
-- Asmodean, he could've killed Mat, Lan or Moiraine much earlier in the Waste.
-- same goes to Lanfear, she had plenty of opportunities to level out the field on the good guys side.

Granted, that this is not exactly the point Cannoli was making, but in terms of "morons" among Forsaken - pretty much all of them.
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So they'd appeal to readers like you? Cannoli - 16/10/2010 12:18:31 PM 876 Views
my own thoughts to some comments Foxhead - 17/10/2010 02:05:51 AM 616 Views
Re: "Name a Forsaken..." (edit) Skeeve the Great - 17/10/2010 02:57:45 AM 425 Views
to be fair to moghedien Foxhead - 17/10/2010 04:10:12 PM 515 Views
A few things: Narg - 16/10/2010 05:54:36 PM 526 Views
He didn't actually do that. Cannoli - 16/10/2010 06:10:47 PM 539 Views
I hadn't checked his/her edits. *NM* Narg - 16/10/2010 07:17:00 PM 364 Views
Shove it malekithe - 18/10/2010 06:22:00 AM 361 Views
Because no one reads the books before forming strong opinions about events in them. *NM* Dark Cannoli'gar - 16/10/2010 06:08:40 PM 335 Views
I have noticed that myself! *NM* Terez - 17/10/2010 08:07:49 PM 350 Views
Who knows? But he's way more entertaining than you are Lordling - 16/10/2010 07:16:21 PM 470 Views
Hahaha Cannoli = Adam Lambert beetnemesis - 18/10/2010 05:49:59 AM 362 Views
Although I don't tend to agree with Cannoli, and he can be rude... he's certainly not moronic. *NM* Helene - 16/10/2010 08:12:58 PM 348 Views
This was incredibly rude. Cadsuane would slap you for that. Evil_Monkey - 16/10/2010 08:49:27 PM 620 Views
Now I love Cannoli... ßelals Girl - 17/10/2010 08:00:50 PM 447 Views
Well it's not hypocritical for people who have called Cannoli for the same in the past RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/10/2010 10:23:42 PM 401 Views
I wouldn't let it bother me. And I wouldn't respond with a curse word to try and prove a point. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/10/2010 08:57:37 PM 401 Views
Agreed *NM* newyorkersedai - 16/10/2010 09:40:17 PM 344 Views
Is this seriously what we have devolved to? Seriana Sedai - 16/10/2010 09:35:46 PM 427 Views
Not what we desolved to. Just him *NM* Fox and Ravens - 16/10/2010 11:59:26 PM 327 Views
You're right, I spoke in haste. Seriana Sedai - 17/10/2010 03:07:13 AM 382 Views
Cannoli has riled me up with apparent dismissiveness and bile, but he's clearly not a moron. *NM* newyorkersedai - 16/10/2010 09:39:22 PM 447 Views
Cannoly? An asshole? No!... </sarcasm> *NM* Skeeve the Great - 16/10/2010 11:32:35 PM 363 Views
And now, I hope that Cannoli has MPD and malekithe is his non-dominant alternate personality. The newyorkersedai - 16/10/2010 11:46:57 PM 424 Views
Because he chooses to be *NM* darius_sedai - 17/10/2010 12:06:23 AM 320 Views
Cannoli can be harsh, but he is not moronic Apsalar Shadowdancer - 17/10/2010 12:44:48 AM 412 Views
Grow up. *NM* everynametaken - 17/10/2010 01:26:07 AM 418 Views
this is a terrible way to deal with criticism Foxhead - 17/10/2010 01:33:02 AM 465 Views
oops, ignore *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2010 02:49:53 AM 331 Views
That's a mirror you're looking at, not a picture of Cannoli ajfurst - 17/10/2010 01:40:29 AM 399 Views
he may be an asshole, but you're just a moron. an annoying one. LadyLorraine - 17/10/2010 01:47:57 AM 530 Views
who cares? Zaphod - 17/10/2010 01:59:24 AM 374 Views
The Wheel weaves as it wills. *NM* BlackAdder - 17/10/2010 02:50:40 AM 417 Views
All it takes is experience; Some constructive advice. Japhy - 17/10/2010 03:07:35 AM 494 Views
tl;dnr *NM* Japhy - 17/10/2010 03:08:16 AM 342 Views
^ My reaction to a LOT of posts. Anything over 2 screens I don't bother reading. *NM* Evil_Monkey - 17/10/2010 11:15:51 AM 375 Views
This is the most Cannoli love I've seen since beetnemesis - 18/10/2010 05:51:15 AM 481 Views
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