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Re: Yes. And I honestly just thought that this was b/c Rand had access to Lews Therins' training Datakim Send a noteboard - 15/11/2010 10:14:43 PM
We haven't seen that many of the Age of Legends channelers use their full training because they are often in small-scale battles or trying to infiltrate while unnoticed, but Lanfears' attack on the Aiel was the one time we did see a Forsaken in full-scale battle mode. We know she is immensely strong, but her appearance in that scene was very similar to what we saw in Rand - we don't know how many Aiel she destroyed personally, but it seemed to be in the hundreds or thousands and she literally had to walk through their camp to reach her destination, meaning she did all of this in a minute or two. Semirhage also wiped out the entire Imperial family and their attendants, and she may very well have had to destroy hundreds of people in a closely guarded fortress.


Umm, what? What exactly are you talking about with Lanfear? If you are referring to to confrontation with Rand where Moiraine saves him, then Lanfear did very little. She was already IN the encampment, interrogating one of the darkfriends. When she learned that Rand had slept with Aviendha, she went berserk and blew up the wagon. When the Aiel rushed her, she simply created a ring of fire that burned maybe a couple hundred Aiel or so, before Rand blocked her with a barrier. I think she might even have had her angreal already at that point, the one Moiraine now has which the finns claimed was so strong as to be nearly sa'angreal.

To compare that to Rand singlehandedly destroying an entire ARMY of 10K-100K trollocs is silly. Lanfear did not come CLOSE to anything Rand did.

As for Semirhage, I admit that killing the entire imperial family was a neat trick, but it would not have required any significant skill/strength on her part. She could simply have used traveling to reach the empress, reversing and inverting to hide the fact that she was a channeler and masks of mirror to look like someone else. Then she could have struck quickly to kill her fast, and fled via gateway while everyone was still in shock. Again nowhere close to what Rand did. Infact there are now modern Aes Sedai who might have been able to replicate what Semirhage did if they were not constrained by the oaths.


I think the Age of Legends channelers had techniques that allowed them to use their full potential without exhausting themselves, and Rands' connection to the Creator made him seem more inspirational.


I don't deny that the AoL channelers were more skilled, but they could not come close to doing what Rand did unaided and alone. We actually saw this with LTT, when he took over during the trolloc attack at the mansion and required the assistance of a lot of other Aes Sedai and Asha'man to win. I think it was even said there that if Logain had not brought all the men with him, that attack could well have worked.

And then there is the fact that none of the forsaken have decided to go and blow up Rand's armies of Aiel and such. And the fact that what Rand did caused darkfriends to see a mysterious light and go mad as a result. I think that was an important clue that something more than ordinary average chnaneling was happening. AoLers are tough and skilled, but not THAT tough. Rand has grown to become something more now. That was hinted all throughout the book with all the strange things he can now do.
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Yes. And I honestly just thought that this was b/c Rand had access to Lews Therins' training & skill - 15/11/2010 03:43:04 PM 778 Views
Re: Yes. And I honestly just thought that this was b/c Rand had access to Lews Therins' training - 15/11/2010 10:14:43 PM 575 Views
AOL training & Rand's powers as the DR are 2 different things IMHO - 16/11/2010 04:06:26 PM 599 Views
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Re: AOL training & Rand's powers as the DR are 2 different things IMHO - 16/11/2010 10:42:06 PM 547 Views
My first thought was that he had a Sa' angreal. Simple easy answer. *NM* - 14/11/2010 06:23:12 PM 255 Views
This is certainly a possibility, - 28/11/2010 02:26:06 PM 466 Views

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