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Does she has one? DomA Send a noteboard - 29/11/2010 12:57:11 AM
The way Jordan seemed to have set up Moghedien, she just inconsciously "borrows" from the other Chosen, because she doesn't really match up to them.

She has her little "Graendal moments", when she threatens people to use them as stool or turn them into pets, or contorting them like acrobats. She also tries to compel pawns to to her bidding, but she's really quite bad at it.

She had a little Ishamael moment, enjoying the worship of black sisters, sending them away with orders... some of them disobeyed, got stranded, and one of them even tried to attack her. So much for the Great Mistress!

She also has her Lanfear moments, adopting all sort of crazy disguises, some fairly lowly. Unlike Lanfear however, she ended forced to wash dishes for real... She also had her moment of loss of control in Ebou Dar, but all she achieved was breaking Nynaeve's block. Congratulations!

She also had her little Semirhage moments, enjoying to inflict pain, and dressing in full back in opposition to Lanfear's white (and claiming herself much better at her in TAR... which remains to be proven and seems even a bit unlikely given Lanfear's strength of will, and Moghedien's cowardice...)

So, it seems to me Moghedien's style is to rip off her betters for tricks she can't pull off nearly as well as they can. Her style is to be... unimaginative. It's like she needs to copy the others, because she lacks too much imagination to be an original villain.


Invading Masema's dreams as Rand and give him grand orders seem both too creative and too theatrical for Moghedien. It's always been Lanfear we saw use that kind of trick before (ie: adopting disguises to seduce or mislead...Aes Sedai, Selene, Else Grinwell, Keille, Silvie and so on.

Moghedien is more straightforward and boring. She appears to agents as Moghedien and gives them orders.

The trick with Masema presupposes some knowledge of the details of his madness. It's far more plausible Lanfear could have noticed him while spying on Rand's early followers after TGH and tried to exploit this one's madness early on. It was also Lanfear's style to nudge Rand's allies early on. She did it with Perrin, Mat, Egwene, Min.. In TDR, she's sent the girls to Rand in Tear, pushed Perrin to go on when Ishamael was trying to send him back to blacksmithing, pushed Mat out the Tower.... It would make sense she inspired Masema, who was unhinged, with visions that made him build for Rand an army of fanatics, quite useless to him as long as he fought for the Light, incidentally.

Moghedien didn't even know Rand's name by then.

Hopefully we'll learn who gave the vision to Masema, but the scene seems to have been written by RJ, and it would be his style to have that there, confirming someone has tampered with Masema (I thought it obvious from the scene, many disagreed it was obvious - but later Brandon has confirmed someone was behind it), but never to reveal who it was for sure.


This message last edited by DomA on 29/11/2010 at 01:00:39 AM
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