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I think that she meant that comment as more for the "hero" version Apsalar Shadowdancer Send a noteboard - 03/12/2010 10:57:38 AM
and even our point of view is not an accurate depiction. The only reference we have to permanent death in T'A'R' is from the wolves. Wolves=/=humans, and, as DomA has stated above, they may be wrong as well.


Brigitte (and her mate?) say that if they die there it's permanent for them as well.


not that the soul would never be reborn, just that it would sever her connection to the horn and her soul would return to the "normal" human soul pool. From a hero of the horn's perspective that would be a "permanent" death because they would no longer be re-spun as the same hero. I don't think she meant, or would even be aware, that her death in tar would actually destroy her soul.
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Egwene and the WIse Ones don't know the most basic thing about Teleranriod guttering flame - 02/12/2010 10:43:16 PM 2031 Views
IIRC Nicola was killed by a Black Ajah Sister and Egwene had tried to save her. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 10:52:01 PM 1232 Views
Yes, I meant allowing her near the battle in the first place guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:28:45 AM 832 Views
And who would enforce those rules? j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:42:33 PM 960 Views
Also, I'm not sure how you could expect the Wise Ones to know that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/12/2010 02:51:43 PM 840 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 10:55:15 PM 1035 Views
Re: How do you figure? malekithe - 02/12/2010 11:06:29 PM 1119 Views
may, being the operative word. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:12:49 PM 949 Views
except for the part of the soul that stays in the sleeping body, like they've explained many times. *NM* nigelgoboom - 02/12/2010 11:16:43 PM 444 Views
mmm fair point. maybe if you were there "too strongly"? LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:18:50 PM 944 Views
right. but i dont think 'too strongly' ever means completely. maybe in the flesh or something *NM* nigelgoboom - 03/12/2010 01:24:38 AM 473 Views
This doesn't make a lot of sense guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:37:02 AM 888 Views
They also told Perrin that about... j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:55:57 AM 1034 Views
yes, that is another confounding factor LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:14:35 AM 891 Views
Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 11:45:37 PM 1000 Views
Re: Oh, I see. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:29:30 AM 1000 Views
Re: Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 02:45:59 AM 927 Views
He isn't a wolfbrother Timthetrolloc - 03/12/2010 05:43:06 AM 969 Views
Maybe he hadn't discovered it yet. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 06:21:22 AM 868 Views
He'd be a shadowbrother-brother guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:51:59 AM 806 Views
You raise an interesting possibility guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:44:18 AM 1061 Views
Wolfbrothers are going to be part of the next age. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 07:05:30 AM 823 Views
I thought they were just a transitional thing guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:13:17 AM 912 Views
I doubt it, that Age is ours. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:33:03 PM 815 Views
Uhm, TOTALLY. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 10:00:01 PM 784 Views
GASP! *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 06:59:09 AM 518 Views
I know RJ said something guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:15:51 AM 799 Views
Re: I know RJ said something Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:05:50 AM 890 Views
So... guttering flame - 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM 907 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 10:12:45 AM 867 Views
Of course... DomA - 05/12/2010 08:21:05 PM 964 Views
If the first age is the Technological / Scientific Age guttering flame - 06/12/2010 06:33:18 AM 927 Views
I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. LadyLorraine - 06/12/2010 07:04:08 AM 870 Views
I don't even know why they're supposed to be mutually exclusive. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/12/2010 07:37:35 AM 443 Views
Re: I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. guttering flame - 06/12/2010 08:14:15 AM 850 Views
uhm, duh, stonehedge. LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:11:44 PM 819 Views
No, because Heroes and Wolves are both different from run of the mill humans LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:19:05 AM 933 Views
That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:17:46 PM 1006 Views
Re: That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:42:39 AM 953 Views
It could be extrapolated from the fact that it's souls that inhabit it guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:54:40 AM 875 Views
You're caving to bias from being outside the story with more information than any single character. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:13:12 AM 886 Views
Don't forget the Heroes guttering flame - 03/12/2010 09:34:43 AM 768 Views
I think that she meant that comment as more for the "hero" version Apsalar Shadowdancer - 03/12/2010 10:57:38 AM 837 Views
Maybe this should be a question for Sanderson? guttering flame - 03/12/2010 11:43:54 AM 845 Views
that's only because you're stubbornly holding to yours, despite everyone indicating its errors *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 05:29:15 PM 512 Views
Obviously my tenacity indicates that I have a worthy point guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:06:18 PM 662 Views
Perrin doesn't count since his information is from Hopper LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:58:01 PM 864 Views
So it's my evidence against your non-evidence? guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:05:41 AM 922 Views
why are you assuming that all souls are the same? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:10 PM 1128 Views
1. You're wrong. 2. Even if you're right, how would they know? beetnemesis - 03/12/2010 05:28:33 AM 1078 Views
Maybe, but I bet they can spell it. Joel - 03/12/2010 05:43:28 AM 920 Views
Incidentally, wouldn't that mean it is safer to go to Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:35:21 PM 433 Views
I'm more inclined to believe that being killed in the flesh in TAR darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 07:35:15 PM 782 Views
Where does that reasoning begin? Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:53:42 PM 1354 Views
Perhaps it's more of a matter that the "usual route" may be altered? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 10:20:51 PM 756 Views
But human souls don't go to Tel'aran'rhiod, from what we know. Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 11:19:53 PM 774 Views
maybe it does? LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 12:18:05 AM 1107 Views
So do we have any reason to believe this is the case? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/12/2010 02:48:48 AM 425 Views
I don't think so. It's not really something that's discussed LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 03:19:37 AM 641 Views
I'm pondering too darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 03:04:10 PM 936 Views
Not @ all - if humans regularly go to TAR after they die, we'd have seen it already. Heroes would newyorkersedai - 04/12/2010 01:28:45 AM 960 Views
that would have been decidedly clever. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:52 PM 389 Views
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