Active Users:226 Time:17/05/2024 02:27:52 AM
Re: Theories entyti Send a noteboard - 05/08/2011 06:10:46 PM
Does an a'dam's link hold in a Stedding?

I believe so. It doesn't require active channeling to work - it responds both to young girls who haven't sparked yet, and learners who never channel. Since the ability to channel and not the act of channeling are all it requires, it should still hold. It's possible that the sul'dam will lose the ability to cause sensation through it, however. Siuan and Leane couldn't, when stilled.


I tend to agree. However, if what you posit is true about losing the ability to cause sensations, then it would stand to reason that the ter'angreal would fail in every other aspect. Mistress Anan couldn't do more than Siuan and Leane, and toting Joline around still caused the Aes Sedai to sick up.

How is it that the Seanchan Ogier have not developed the Longing?

Something to do with their service to the Empress, I'd bet. But we can only theorise. I'd be curious to see what happens to a Seanchan Ogier if they enter a Stedding. Do they even know about Stedding? Maybe they're a myth, to them.


Intriguing. What service would you expect would drive them to that? Perhaps there acceptance of there violent nature...? Or do you suggest it is the devotion to the Throne that allowed them to cope?

How do the Seanchan control their Fortelling damane's visions? Do they make it up most of the time, and get lucky others? Or has the social constraints forced the ability to be controlled? If the latter, could that Talent be controlled by other Aes Sedai, with proper discipline? Could Elaida gain such a control, now she is damane?

We see many different ways of telling the future, from the Wise Ones and their dreams, to Min and her visions. It's possible the damane do something different still. But in a more prosaic sense, you may have it backwards - possibly there are damane who Foretell like Aes Sedai do, but I doubt they'd be serving the Empress or the Daughter of the Nine Moons. A damane who could start shaking and ranting in public at any time would be an embarrassment. They'd be more likely to choose one who has a more discreet, controllable talent.


Perhaps... though I would rather think that when a damane had her first Foretelling, it would be viewed as a sign that they have the Talent, and it is being expressed much like a growing pain. Said damane would then be marked for training and would thereafter be pampered for her abilities.

As for your first supposition, that it is a Seanchan exclusive Talent, I tend to think it unlikely. With the sole exception of Min, Talents have not been seen to be very segregated. Oh, the Wise One's have more dreamwalkers, true, and the Kin have better Healers. But these are products of the society being aware of the Talents and being able to nurture the Talents. Whose to say how the Foretelling might be nurtured? Given the proper... motivations.


Was Elaida's transformation at all influenced by Fain?

I believe there is a Fain POV quote somewhere along the lines of "She might still trust her mother, by the time he was finished with her. Maybe." So, yes.


Yes, I agree.


Will Elaida and/or the Seanchan-captured Aes Sedai be bargained back to freedom?

Hm. The capture of Elaida was terribly convenient, narratively speaking; it got her out of the way with no bloodshed on Egwene's part (only one of many, many ridiculous and unbelievable events in that whole story arc). I suppose she could come back now that Egwene's rule is secure. Maybe she'd even be grateful and wouldn't plot and scheme to overthrow her. But we do know that after the series end Mat and Fortuona were supposed to return to Seanchan to try and reclaim Fortuona's throne, and I can't see how they expect to do that without a lot of damane. Seems more likely they'd bring them all with them.


Well, there is also the point to consider that the Seanchan and White Tower very likely have another confrontation to sort through prior to Tarmon Gaidon. I just wonder what will come of that. The captured Sisters are bound to come up, no?


Will Elayne walk into yet another trap in aMoL?

Don't even get me started on Elayne and her utter, mindless, criminal stupidity over the past few books.


Heh heh. She will probably place her own soul in a cour'souvre and hand it to Moridin right before Rand confronts him.


Did Cadsuane teach Rand what she is supposed to teach him and all the Ashaman? If so, what was it? If not, what could it be?

She's certainly taught Rand a lot, but not the Asha'man, I don't think. So I'll go with 'no'. And it's probably something along the lines of 'men and women need to work together for max results'.


Men and women have already started working together. It started at Shadar Logoth, and even Perrin's troup has begun that.

I considered that the idea might have been related to Rand's revelation, and his attitude that Ashaman are not weapons. However, that is weak. It seems this mystery will not be settled today.


Any ideas on how Rand's life depends on Moiraine, as Min had fortold?

I'd assumed she would crack the ice he'd buried himself in, shock him back to sanity in some way, finally make him tear up that damned 'list'. But he did that on his own. So, no. There's nothing she can offer, channeling-wise, nor really advice-wise, so I have no idea.


Yes, I have no ideas on this either.


Is Perrin going to die? Does the Prophesy of the Shadow even say he will die? Will the prophesy come true?

I don't think it comes true. It's clear that all three of them need to be at the Last Battle if they are to win, and I don't think anyone expects Our Heroes to lose (though it would be something a bit different if they did). Obviously, he can die after the Last Battle, but he's going to die at some point - one year or seventy, you know. So I don't think that dark!prophecy will come true.


I feel very uneasy about this prophecy. I interpret it as Faile will die, and Perrin will lose his mind in the process.

I tend to think it will come true. And it makes me sad. Sanderson I think did some of his best work with Perrin in these last two books. I've grown fond of him again.


Who do you think will die before the last page has turned?

All the Forsaken. Rand, once, though he'll come back to life. Cadsuane and Lan. Lots of minor Aes Sedai and other characters. Don't expect any of the harem to die, or Egwene, or Nynaeve. RJ seemed to be setting up favourite characters for happy endings, so probably Thom and Moiraine will live, and Siuan and Gareth. We'll probably see a lot of death among characters we've come to like - Sorelia, Julian - but who aren't important to the plot.

Does Demandred command the Black Tower? If not, what does he command?

He'd better. We've not seen anything of what he can do, so whatever strategy he uses better be spectacular and very evil, or I'll be disappointed. We've spent too much time being shown the growth of the shadow in the BT for it to come to nothing.


Agreed. It would be funny if Demandred's only influence throughout the series turned out to be Weiremon Saniago.


What can we glean from Aviendha's visions in Rhuidean? Proof that channeling will continue post Tarmon Gaidon?

Glean? That RJ knows little about the intricacies of industrial/technological development. Inventing gunpowder =/= an industrial revolution.


I am extremely ignorant on the subject, but isn't that a little harsh? Aviendha's vision did span the length of an Age. Gunpowder alone might not spark an industrial revolution, but Rand's school did produce a steam engine as well. And there's the man who "captured lightning in a jar."

Omnipresent Lurker of WoTMB
Proud and Open Rolan Sympathiser
Fan of Everything Tool
Eternal Shiva Enthusiast
Reply to message
Random Questions Time! - 04/08/2011 07:35:12 PM 663 Views
Answers - 05/08/2011 05:11:19 AM 537 Views
Theories - 05/08/2011 01:08:32 PM 437 Views
Re: Theories - 05/08/2011 06:10:46 PM 317 Views
Re: Theories - 05/08/2011 08:32:07 PM 301 Views

Reply to Message