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Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 18/02/2012 11:44:19 PM
Also, one has to keep in mind that Elayne just removed some of the High Houses that serve as a counterweight to the monarch's power. I'm not sure if the new Cairhienin rulers now gain that authority, or if she has completely removed those votes from the pool, but either way the monarchy has just granted itself the rights to remove the lands of High Houses who oppose them, and with them their power to raise the new Queen in a succession war, or to serve as a check for her power.

As for the Two Rivers, it's worth noting that she also threatened to execute Perrin, thus achieving what Ishamael has spent most of the series trying to accomplish. This shouldn't be too much of a surprise, since her brother Gawyn had that whole vow to kill Rand, but at least Gawyn had the personal trauma to explain his irrational decision, whereas Elayne's is a calculated political point. She was willing to doom the world to preserve her political image.

Incidentally, am I the only one who finds it strange that in a novel written by an American, during this threat or revolution against a distant, irresponsible monarch we are expected to side with the monarch?
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Bad Elayne! No biscuit! - 18/02/2012 10:13:54 PM 2662 Views
You are assigning your 21st century view onto people with totally different circumstances - 18/02/2012 11:33:56 PM 1369 Views
The Queen of Andor lost all authority over the Two Rivers when she failed to protect it. *NM* - 25/03/2012 02:53:23 PM 712 Views
Which is why they elected their own lord - 25/03/2012 06:25:31 PM 1285 Views
Feudal law. - 25/03/2012 07:52:25 PM 1359 Views
Not quite... - 25/03/2012 08:34:49 PM 1266 Views
All that, PLUS.. - 25/03/2012 09:55:26 PM 1513 Views
Re: Not quite... - 26/03/2012 03:53:46 PM 1606 Views
And she has not tried to exert authority over them - 25/03/2012 10:33:44 PM 1382 Views
Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book. - 18/02/2012 11:44:19 PM 1676 Views
No, you are not. - 19/02/2012 03:44:04 AM 1389 Views
Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book. - 20/02/2012 03:11:14 AM 1823 Views
Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book. - 20/02/2012 06:22:21 AM 1319 Views
Failed to click "Edit" instead of "Reply". - 20/02/2012 06:23:18 AM 1412 Views
"Damn sister married the Pope instead of my chosen Lord Ohsoimportant" - 25/03/2012 03:50:06 PM 1420 Views
Nobles and Ishara's blood - 03/04/2012 02:59:03 PM 1336 Views
Okay, I admit it, there is no way I am reading such a long post about Elayne..... - 19/02/2012 08:14:53 PM 1333 Views
it was a bear to read but enlightening none the less. *NM* - 20/02/2012 08:49:35 AM 769 Views
The Caraline treatment. - 25/03/2012 02:41:12 PM 1268 Views
Do you Colavaer Saighan? I don't recall Caraline having her lands and titles stripped - 25/03/2012 10:44:57 PM 1365 Views
Yes, sorry about the mixup. Names sound the same. *NM* - 26/03/2012 02:52:18 PM 893 Views
Re: Bad Elayne! No biscuit! - 27/03/2012 07:39:05 PM 1276 Views
Perrin is Rand's servant, so TR belongs to Rand *NM* *NM* - 12/04/2012 07:30:46 PM 943 Views

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