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I very much doubt it darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 17/03/2012 04:48:56 PM
Realistically more people need to know about the death of the Semirhage and the Mesaana for it to be a major blow to the shadow. I see your point that it makes a big difference to the people who saw it directly but it's not big enough in the grand scheme to be a major blow. The black ajah cleansing was way more important, as were the events at the Eye of the World.


I wonder if the Tower advertised the execution of the Black Ajah though? They've strongly denied the existence of the Black since their founding, and I wouldn't put it past them to officially declare that the executions were due to treason i.e. breaking the Tower.


But no need to advertise... It's still a much larger blow than the deaths of Semirhage and Mesaana. Several reasons

1. Losing the Black Ajah cost the Shadow over a hundred trained women channelers
2. Massive loss of influence, the BA gave the Shadow an insider angle into one of their most powerful enemies that in turn allowed them to exert influence over many other groups
3. As others have mentioned this limits their mixed circle capabilities
4. Your own point about Semirhage and Mesaana holds some truth here too. The AS have seen that the Shadow can Ben beaten now, they have witnessed their own weakness and overcome it making them a more potent enemy than before. This coupled with Egwene personally defeating Mesaana makes this event even more significant.
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Re: Biggest blows to the Shadow... Sidious - 13/03/2012 08:03:59 PM 1110 Views
I disagree on number three don't think it's broad enough darius_sedai - 17/03/2012 02:53:08 PM 945 Views
I wonder if it was advertised though? Sidious - 17/03/2012 04:25:23 PM 1036 Views
I very much doubt it darius_sedai - 17/03/2012 04:48:56 PM 958 Views
Re: I very much doubt it Sidious - 17/03/2012 07:33:48 PM 937 Views
It's funny because I don't think the Forsaken have proven particularly effective either darius_sedai - 17/03/2012 07:47:58 PM 953 Views
I think they've been pretty effective Sidious - 19/03/2012 10:46:11 AM 933 Views
Yet they have done very little to move the grand plan forward darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:51:59 PM 945 Views
What plan? Sidious - 20/03/2012 08:18:40 AM 1134 Views
I disagree ... The DO seems to have a plan and Moridin showed us he is following a prophesy darius_sedai - 20/03/2012 01:05:40 PM 1033 Views
Up until the very end of TGS, wasn't the plan to turn Rand/make him do the DO's job for him? IndigoAjah - 29/04/2012 07:46:04 PM 1042 Views
That's what I was saying ... Or at least part of it darius_sedai - 30/04/2012 12:45:24 AM 1075 Views
Re: I very much doubt it DomA - 17/03/2012 09:59:15 PM 1074 Views
Regarding Demandred Sidious - 19/03/2012 11:11:22 AM 1020 Views
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Re: I disagree on number three don't think it's broad enough DomA - 17/03/2012 05:46:31 PM 1093 Views
I always thought of the victory at the Eye as the Lights first big win in the series darius_sedai - 17/03/2012 07:27:12 PM 1008 Views
Re: I always thought of the victory at the Eye as the Lights first big win in the series DomA - 17/03/2012 09:16:08 PM 1079 Views
I largely agree with you darius_sedai - 18/03/2012 03:25:17 AM 1030 Views
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Re: Oh, I'd probably die. That's not the important thing. Sidious - 20/03/2012 08:14:51 AM 946 Views
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