Ispan was still bound by her oath to not betray the Black Ajah
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 09/05/2012 12:32:45 PM
Without their Oaths they would have been able to give up real information even without putting them to The Question ... Vandene and Adeleas managed to squeeze Ispan, god only knows why they didn't Still her first too.
That's probably a stilling offense to still another Aes Sedai. They had only the word of "sisters" unbound by the Oath as evidence the woman was BA. Not that they doubted the girls, but it's still a little thin to take such radical unlawful measures. And no one knew severing neutralized the Oaths anyway.
But Vandene and Adeleas did put Ispan to the question, it was massively implied. What they did was probably fairly soft, compared to the Questionners or Seekers, but they no doubt went as far as Tower Law and their Oaths left them room to wriggle. And they got nothing useful out of Ispan. Nothing at all.
Had that oath been removed Vandene and Adeleas would have gotten every scrap of information she had out of her. The Tower has very specific laws around putting initiatives to the Question, which given it's WOT, would likely supersede any national laws. Elayne could have easily slipped around Andoran law ith the AS in her possession and used whatever methods Vandene and Adeleas used on Ispan to get what she needed ... If she had Stilled them. Egwene would have let this slide since she knew first hand what these women were.
Legal or not I'm surprised Elayne didn't at least think of it
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Elayne
- 02/05/2012 11:36:52 PM
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- 03/05/2012 02:36:14 PM
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- 03/05/2012 02:47:58 PM
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Yes, I posted a proposition with that solution years ago.
- 06/05/2012 07:25:55 PM
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With the new healing technology
- 07/05/2012 12:08:50 AM
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So it's better to not bother?! At least by stilling, you force them to make the effort.
- 08/05/2012 06:53:17 AM
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So it's better to not bother?! At least by stilling, you force them to make the effort.
- 08/05/2012 06:53:17 AM
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Not to mention that Elayne KNOWS that Stilling them would also have broken their Oaths
- 08/05/2012 01:11:31 PM
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Not that much
- 08/05/2012 10:07:24 PM
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Sorry, meant she could have more effectively questioned them in "normal" means
- 08/05/2012 11:26:13 PM
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Re: Sorry, meant she could have more effectively questioned them in "normal" means
- 09/05/2012 01:24:41 AM
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Ispan was still bound by her oath to not betray the Black Ajah
- 09/05/2012 12:32:45 PM
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Re: Ispan was still bound by her oath to not betray the Black Ajah
- 09/05/2012 03:57:11 PM
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All true. Doesn't change the fact that had they Stilled these women they would have gotten
- 10/05/2012 01:35:42 PM
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Re: All true. Doesn't change the fact that had they Stilled these women they would have gotten
- 10/05/2012 08:02:20 PM
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Yes, too bad the viewing was wrong and she died...oh, wait....
- 06/05/2012 07:34:43 PM
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I agree
- 07/05/2012 02:25:06 AM
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I don't know that we agree about Elayne...
- 08/05/2012 06:40:56 AM
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Actually, I think we do on most a lot of points
- 08/05/2012 08:53:43 PM
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Seriously, I haven't read any Elayne chapters since book 9/Winter's Heart.....
- 06/05/2012 08:01:05 PM
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