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Some of these did occur... lilltempest Send a noteboard - 09/01/2013 08:40:33 PM
- Also not dealt with are Min's viewings of Lan, of ruined towers and a baby in a cradle with a sword, which would seem to refer to his past, but which RJ denied. I guess he and Nynaeve are going to restore Malkier, but why have theit kid swear the oath on the sword when war is basically outlawed and the Shadow is gone?


My take on this is that it was fulfilled. Lan, as a baby, was put on the path of avenging his people and land. He did this in the book...he returned to his homeland, avenged it, and is now (I believe) restoring it.

- Logain's laughter as he steps over Rand's body to mount the speaker's platform of the Black Tower doesn't really describe his ascension to glory or to the leadership of the Asha'man, neither of which had anything to do with Rand's body. It is theorized his laughter is because he knows Rand is not really dead, but as far as I could see, he was not in on that scam.


That was a dream, and dreams are not certainties. Although, it could be interpreted that Rand was the one many Asha'man had looked to as their leader (despite Taim being M'Hael) but he was never present as the leader. Logain was the one who, before leaving the Tower, stepped up and inspired many of the men there. They looked to him once Taim was removed, as well, instead of looking to Rand (who appeared not to give a damn about them). So Logain stepped over the image of Rand as non-existent leader and took over.

- What did Min see that tied Egwene to Galad, that would incite her to call Egwene a fool?


Not fulfilled, apparently, but does anyone need a reason to call Egwene a fool? :P

- Also, Egwene's dream of the Seanchan woman helping her is almost certainly Leilwin, but nothing in their acquaintance seems to fit Leilwin specifically offering her help to reach the place she was trying to climb. It seems like Leilwin would be offering her help with something specific, rather than the general offer of service she actually makes, or the Gawyn-substitute Egwene actually uses her as. Another thing that occurs to me is that Egwene failed to make the best use of Leilwin, and had she been more imaginative or proactive in accepting her help, she might have actually survived.


I think Leilwin did help her reach the place she was trying to climb when she rescued her. Had Leilwin not arrived when she did, Egwene would've been dead sooner.

I agree that Egwene did not make the best use of her, but given how Egwene seemed to see herself as equal to the Creator when she was holding that sa'angreal, it's hardly surprising. Why give someone else the opportunity to shine when you think you can single-handedly win a war and that you're the only one who matters (paraphrase of Egwene's POV: "Every Aes Sedai could fall, but as long as she survived the White Tower would stand!";).

I don't remember right now if Leilwin was with Egwene when she and Rand faced off at Merrilor, but she was supposed to have a confrontation with him, with a Seanchan woman in her company.


No, I don't think she was there. Egwene took four Sitters and her lapdog with her.

- How does Narishma "follow after"?


I think a lot of people took this one to mean more than it really did. He was the one to take Callandor from the Stone and that was that. Prophecy fulfilled.

- Mat was supposed to weigh two Aes Sedai on a balance scale and something huge depended on it, on a world-like scale. Seemingly about his rescue of Teslyn and Joline, IDK what kind of massive repercussions that's had, unless it was the first domino in getting him hooked up with Tuon. Or maybe it represents his ignoring Verin's letter but going after Moiraine and the Trollocs attacking in accordance with the former, while he is doing the latter. Maybe if he had stopped to read the letter and chosen to put off rescuing Moiraine to save Caemlyn, things would not have worked out as they did.


I think it was him ignoring Verin's letter and going after Moiraine instead. Had he stayed in Caemlyn, Moiraine would have likely not returned.

- Also, she never forces Rand to his knees, even figuratively speaking. The only thing that could refer to might have been the warder bond, but he wasn't forced and his persuasion was not as easy as the one hand might indicate.


I agree on the others you listed in this paragraph, but this one happened. The Warder bond, by definition is not equal and the one doing the bonding is the master to the Warder/slave. It's what the bond is all about. Even Pevara basically admits it when she thinks of how the mutual bonding creates equality.

That's all I can think of. I'll spot them the three on the boat, with that being either figurative or a future vacation Rand and the girls will take someday. There's also a couple that seem to have been addressed more subtly than I would have thought, such as the Foretelling that referred to Aviendha and Elayne as the dedicated spear and the lion sword, referencing their roles in Tarmon Gaidon, and the "three as one" reference to Rand's use of saidar, saidin and the True Power.


I honestly did not think Rand would channel the True Power. It made sense, from the perspective that it could keep the Dark One from tainting either power, but I thought it would be wrong of Rand to use the True Power given the changes in him. Weaving it with Moridin being the conduit worked, however.



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