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Re: A "choice" to use anachronistic vocabulary betrays a lack of ability to think Joar Nessosin Send a noteboard - 31/01/2013 07:41:23 PM

I don't see what you mean by that. I think Brandon might have made a conscious decision not to ape RJ's style, and for all we know Harriet supported him in that. She was the editor, after all, and she let it all go through.

It's not really THAT difficult to stilt your dialog and prose in the way that RJ did. I think it's overblowing things to say that it's some sort of grand skill. RJ's skill is in his world building and intuition about politics and warfare, in his ability to keep so many plates spinning and still remain almost perfectly consistent, not in his ability to write old-timey dialog and description. That's something any initiate writer ought to be able to do.

Claiming that Brandon, an established author with multiple best sellers under his belt, is less skilled than an initiate writer is just plain bias against the guy that you're most likely harboring because he ruined your favorite series.

Which is a fair cop, I'm not totally happy with the job he did either, but to call him a bad writer based on his use of contemporary dialog is kind of weak. It was just a bad choice, not poor skill.

I don't really feel that "selling lots of books" is an acceptable metric for being a "good writer"

I am quite happy to say that Brandon Sanderson is a bad writer, in the knowledge that he has sold a pile of books.

By way of an anology; ikea sell more furniture than, I imagine, most of the worlds master craftsmen combined.

Nobody will claim they make "the best" furniture.

I will admit that the only writing of sandersons I've read is his interpretations of RJs notes, but I find it poorly crafted, and simplistic.

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All you need is love Ben - 31/01/2013 02:12:39 PM 1571 Views

Re: All you need is love muppet - 31/01/2013 02:15:47 PM 1037 Views

Mate you're not alone in thinking the androl arc was insanely stupid. ImmanuelXavier - 31/01/2013 04:27:59 PM 961 Views

Re: Mate you're not alone in thinking the androl arc was insanely stupid. muppet - 31/01/2013 04:47:09 PM 1000 Views

I disagree. ImmanuelXavier - 31/01/2013 04:59:27 PM 922 Views

Re: I disagree. muppet - 31/01/2013 05:02:46 PM 1060 Views

Meh, not really Marshall - 31/01/2013 05:40:12 PM 1062 Views

Re: Meh, not really muppet - 31/01/2013 06:08:50 PM 996 Views

Completely agree Shannow - 31/01/2013 06:20:35 PM 998 Views

Re: Completely agree muppet - 31/01/2013 06:25:11 PM 1260 Views

A "choice" to use anachronistic vocabulary betrays a lack of ability to think *NM* Marshall - 31/01/2013 06:38:09 PM 623 Views

Re: A "choice" to use anachronistic vocabulary betrays a lack of ability to think muppet - 31/01/2013 06:42:42 PM 897 Views

Re: A "choice" to use anachronistic vocabulary betrays a lack of ability to think Joar Nessosin - 31/01/2013 07:41:23 PM 955 Views

Also, twighlight. And 50 shades of gray. *NM* ImmanuelXavier - 31/01/2013 08:27:25 PM 479 Views

Re: A "choice" to use anachronistic vocabulary betrays a lack of ability to think muppet - 31/01/2013 09:23:14 PM 919 Views

Amys has her sister wife to help her grieve *NM* darius_sedai - 03/02/2013 12:49:43 AM 430 Views

What's this about one of Nynaeve/Lan dying but being recovered by Rand? Memory is coming up short. *NM* ImmanuelXavier - 31/01/2013 05:20:40 PM 578 Views

Re: What's this about one of Nynaeve/Lan dying but being recovered by Rand? DomA - 31/01/2013 05:35:54 PM 1052 Views

Re: What's this about one of Nynaeve/Lan dying but being recovered by Rand? muppet - 31/01/2013 05:59:46 PM 1050 Views

Re: What's this about one of Nynaeve/Lan dying but being recovered by Rand? DomA - 31/01/2013 06:56:59 PM 1019 Views

Re: What's this about one of Nynaeve/Lan dying but being recovered by Rand? muppet - 31/01/2013 06:59:45 PM 1080 Views

Exactly Voscaia Sedai - 01/02/2013 01:36:58 PM 998 Views

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<quote id="272015">I don't see what you mean by that. I think Brandon might have made a conscious decision not to ape RJ's style, and for all we know Harriet supported him in that. She was the editor, after all, and she let it all go through.</quote>
<quote id="272015">It's not really THAT difficult to stilt your dialog and prose in the way that RJ did. I think it's overblowing things to say that it's some sort of grand skill. RJ's skill is in his world building and intuition about politics and warfare, in his ability to keep so many plates spinning and still remain almost perfectly consistent, not in his ability to write old-timey dialog and description. That's something any initiate writer ought to be able to do.</quote>
<quote id="272015">Claiming that Brandon, an established author with multiple best sellers under his belt, is less skilled than an initiate writer is just plain bias against the guy that you're most likely harboring because he ruined your favorite series.</quote>
<quote id="272015">Which is a fair cop, I'm not totally happy with the job he did either, but to call him a bad writer based on his use of contemporary dialog is kind of weak. It was just a bad choice, not poor skill.</quote>

I don't really feel that "selling lots of books" is an acceptable metric for being a "good writer"

I am quite happy to say that Brandon Sanderson is a bad writer, in the knowledge that he has sold a pile of books.

By way of an anology; ikea sell more furniture than, I imagine, most of the worlds master craftsmen combined.

Nobody will claim they make "the best" furniture.

I will admit that the only writing of sandersons I've read is his interpretations of RJs notes, but I find it poorly crafted, and simplistic. 
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