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There are legitimate complaints out there, but most of these don't qualify. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 01/02/2013 03:13:18 PM

Did Brandon change Demandred's identity from Roedran to some random Sharan savior after seeing the internet speculation on the matter?

Very unlikely. There had been foreshadowing since the middle of the series that Demandred was doing something big and awesome.

Did RJ state that Lan would kill Demandred or did he merely outline that Demandred would die after a long battle involving the bulk of the Light's forces?

The death of a Forsaken seems big enough that RJ would have decided how it should happen. Plus, it gives Lan a BAMF moment.

Did RJ prescribe that Demandred would engage in three swordfighting duels with lightside blademasters - despite all indications up to now being that Demandred was more of a statesman than a sportsman like Sammael - or did Brandon do that solely to get a reason for Lan to be the one that got to kill Demandred in the end?

Dunno about the "three duels" thing, but the fact that Demandred was a master swordsman is completely consistent. He and Lews Therin freaking rediscovered what war was. Not only that, but LTT was a blademaster, and Demandred was always competing with him- makes perfect sense that he would be as well.

(Also, I can't quote a page number, but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned earlier in the series.)

Can a normal Aes Sedai really split her flows three ways and simultaneously shield two full Ashaman?

I don't know if a "normal" one could, but one who had specifically trained for it could likely do it. Splitting flows is common, a shield is a fairly simple weave (just Spirit), and while strength would become an issue over a length of time, in the short term training could probably equal the playing field.

Was Egwene's death clearly described by RJ, or did Brandon make up the manner of her death, being told simply that she dies heroically in the Last Battle?

Again, big event, probably clearly described.

I guess the question is, can we take ANYTHING in AMOL as canon according to RJ, or is everything suspect due to Brandon's faulty understanding of RJ's views?

This is a loaded question, and also a bad one. You can bitch about it all you like, but canon is what went into the books. And between RJ's extensive notes, and Harriet looking over his shoulders, I doubt you'll find any discrepancies between RJ's recorded intent and what was published.

I amuse myself.

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So how much of AMOL was real - i.e. RJ's intention, as opposed to Branfiction? Shannow - 01/02/2013 01:48:16 PM 2399 Views

Swordsmanship is not a primitive game Sidious - 01/02/2013 02:16:27 PM 1132 Views

The sword thing is just one of many..and no, there is no hint that Asmodean was a swordsman either.. Shannow - 01/02/2013 02:26:04 PM 1799 Views

Yes there is Sidious - 01/02/2013 02:31:28 PM 1177 Views

That's part of the Branfiction. Shannow - 01/02/2013 02:39:01 PM 1122 Views

Re: Yes there is sleepinghour - 01/02/2013 04:20:37 PM 1085 Views

Haha...That's a priceless quote. Brandon should hang his head in shame. Shannow - 01/02/2013 06:55:49 PM 1016 Views

*double post* *NM* DomA - 02/02/2013 02:22:04 AM 496 Views

Re: It's rather the opposite.... DomA - 02/02/2013 02:23:34 AM 1469 Views

Really? Shannow - 02/02/2013 09:45:38 AM 1298 Views

I just wonder how Harriet could fail to choose you over Brandon *NM* Voscaia Sedai - 02/02/2013 02:29:00 PM 648 Views

Wait for River of Souls... fionwe1987 - 02/02/2013 06:45:48 PM 1189 Views

Re: Wait for River of Souls... darius_sedai - 02/02/2013 09:34:59 PM 1074 Views

Re: Swordsmanship is not a primitive game darius_sedai - 01/02/2013 02:36:18 PM 974 Views

Re: Swordsmanship is not a primitive game Sidious - 01/02/2013 05:07:39 PM 1253 Views

I am in the same boat ... Part of me was loving it then the cards came crashing down darius_sedai - 02/02/2013 01:39:02 AM 980 Views

There are legitimate complaints out there, but most of these don't qualify. beetnemesis - 01/02/2013 03:13:18 PM 1173 Views

A few things Light in the Night - 02/02/2013 07:21:19 AM 1288 Views

Re: A few things darius_sedai - 02/02/2013 01:38:34 PM 1013 Views

I wasn't taking sides Light in the Night - 03/02/2013 06:29:59 AM 930 Views

Re: I wasn't taking sides Dreadlord - 18/02/2013 08:59:24 PM 845 Views

The things that primarily irked me. Ruby - 10/02/2013 11:08:29 AM 935 Views

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<quote id="272064">Did Brandon change Demandred's identity from Roedran to some random Sharan savior after seeing the internet speculation on the matter?</quote>

Very unlikely. There had been foreshadowing since the middle of the series that Demandred was doing something big and awesome.

<quote id="272064">Did RJ state that Lan would kill Demandred or did he merely outline that Demandred would die after a long battle involving the bulk of the Light's forces?</quote>

The death of a Forsaken seems big enough that RJ would have decided how it should happen. Plus, it gives Lan a BAMF moment.

<quote id="272064">Did RJ prescribe that Demandred would engage in three swordfighting duels with lightside blademasters - despite all indications up to now being that Demandred was more of a statesman than a sportsman like Sammael - or did Brandon do that solely to get a reason for Lan to be the one that got to kill Demandred in the end? </quote>

Dunno about the "three duels" thing, but the fact that Demandred was a master swordsman is completely consistent.  He and Lews Therin freaking rediscovered what war was.  Not only that, but LTT was a blademaster, and Demandred was always competing with him- makes perfect sense that he would be as well.

(Also, I can't quote a page number, but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned earlier in the series.)

<quote id="272064">Can a normal Aes Sedai really split her flows three ways and simultaneously shield two full Ashaman?</quote>

I don't know if a "normal" one could, but one who had specifically trained for it could likely do it.  Splitting flows is common, a shield is a fairly simple weave (just Spirit), and while strength would become an issue over a length of time, in the short term training could probably equal the playing field.

<quote id="272064">Was Egwene's death clearly described by RJ, or did Brandon make up the manner of her death, being told simply that she dies heroically in the Last Battle?</quote>

Again, big event, probably clearly described.

<quote id="272064">I guess the question is, can we take ANYTHING in AMOL as canon according to RJ, or is everything suspect due to Brandon's faulty understanding of RJ's views?</quote>

This is a loaded question, and also a bad one.  You can bitch about it all you like, but canon is what went into the books.  And between RJ's extensive notes, and Harriet looking over his shoulders, I doubt you'll find any discrepancies between RJ's recorded intent and what was published.
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