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Re: really? - Edit 2

Before modification by DomA at 21/02/2013 05:38:36 PM

I recall zero foreshadowing on this point, though I haven't read the whole series in a while. Birgitte and everyone else calls him hornsounder... I figured it was something that certain "in the know" characters would be able to see about him.

How was it foreshadowed?


I don't have direct quotes, but there were numerous references to the fact that the horn would only be linked to the person who blew it until they died. Turak said it in tGH, and in tDR Egwene and Nyneave were worried that Siuan would let Mat die so she could link it to whomever she chose. Then, the Aelfinn told Mat he would die and live again (I don't know if it referred to Rhuidean or Caemlyn, but those are the only two times he could have died). Mat mentioned a couple times that he was convinced he was dead in Rhuidean.

Who would be "in the know" about this? I suppose the horn Min saw when she first met the group could have disappeared, but would one missing item be picked out when they change all the time anyway? Did they even see each other between Baerlon and The Last Battle? From a literary standpoint, it's a common theme in tWoT that just about everything someone thinks they know for certain is wrong, even universally known facts (a Hero of the Horn can take over someone's body; Stilling/Gentling can't be Healed; insert your favorite example here). It became even more clear to me in AMoL, when they put so much emphasis on getting the horn to Mat, that there would be a "twist".


There were tons of theories about this. It was accepted by many at one time that Mat wasn't bound anymore to the Horn. Others argued the point it was by balefire Rand brought Mat back, and it must also have undone the severing of the bond.

There are still those who believe his hanging didn't kill him but brought him near death enough that it's what severed his bond, and the Eelfinn did this on purpose.

What was less common (but not non existent) were theories that Mat wouldn't sound the Horn again nonetheless. A great deal of readers thought that since no one knew and Mat himself didn't quite trust he was no longer bound, it was some kind of private joke between RJ and the readers he was freed and couldn't know for sure without someone else trying the Horn, and Mat would end up sounding the Horn again thinking it was his duty and only he could do it, only to tie himself to it again... this time with no foretold death to sever him from it again. The whole point that the Horn would then be "lost" on purpose wasn't foreseen.


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