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Re: Still sounds like rationalization to me (no offense.) Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 19/08/2013 05:56:29 PM

View original postOne could argue the Shadow did that from the start; had the DO simply ordered the surviving Forsaken to converge on Rand with thirteen Myrddraal during his first trip to the Stone there is little he, Moiraine and the rest could have done to stop it. It was a tactic apparently effective enough for Rand to fear during Egwenes trip through the testing ter'angreal, but not for the Shadow to use in mainline reality. Could have been an amusing exchange had everyone put their cards on the table.

I doubt that would accomplish Shai'tan's aims. In the final confrontations, as in Veins of Gold, as in Ba'alzamon's rantings in the first books, the point is quite clearly that Rand must choose to accept Shai'tan's reality. Turning removes choice.

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Who did try to send Bayle Domon east, and why? Lo'oris - 29/07/2013 10:03:15 AM 2110 Views
Dark Friends echooff - 29/07/2013 05:04:02 PM 1311 Views
Re: Dark Friends Lo'oris - 29/07/2013 05:08:41 PM 1234 Views
It's fairly obvious, Jordan-style (ie: a few cl;ues, you have to think it up yourself) DomA - 30/07/2013 02:56:55 PM 1401 Views
Mmh I would need to re-read the relevant chapter... Lo'oris - 30/07/2013 03:01:51 PM 1251 Views
At that point the Shadow had PLENTY of resources in Illian though. Joel - 18/08/2013 01:06:06 PM 1326 Views
Re: At that point the Shadow had PLENTY of resources in Illian though. DomA - 18/08/2013 06:12:46 PM 1169 Views
Still sounds like rationalization to me (no offense.) Joel - 19/08/2013 03:19:51 PM 1389 Views
Re: Still sounds like rationalization to me (no offense.) Fanatic-Templar - 19/08/2013 05:56:29 PM 1202 Views
Rand (or ter'angreal Rand) seemed to think it would. Joel - 20/08/2013 03:34:29 AM 1211 Views
The way I see it, Fanatic-Templar - 20/08/2013 04:36:30 AM 1182 Views
Right, so Rand either serves the Shadow in all worlds or none. Joel - 20/08/2013 04:58:51 AM 1187 Views
Re: The way I see it, DomA - 22/08/2013 03:40:52 AM 1178 Views
That's pretty much what I think, and also why I don't think there's one 'real' world. Fanatic-Templar - 22/08/2013 04:01:44 AM 1241 Views
Re: That's pretty much what I think, and also why I don't think there's one 'real' world. DomA - 22/08/2013 07:54:43 PM 1180 Views
I see. Fanatic-Templar - 23/08/2013 03:43:22 AM 1261 Views
Re: Still sounds like rationalization to me (no offense.) DomA - 22/08/2013 03:57:04 AM 1148 Views
Yeah, it works on that level, as noted in that response: Joel - 22/08/2013 08:40:30 AM 1201 Views
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