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Re: Love the Nynaeve idea ... I'd read that for certain! Cannoli Send a noteboard - 23/09/2016 10:32:19 PM

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Black Tower exploration would be cool too ... I actually think this and exploring the changes in the WT could be incorporated into the Nynaeve in 100 year story too. Perhaps her son is an important Asha'man.

Concerning Nynaeve & the Asha'man, if everyone in charge among them wasn't a total dick, I'd like to have seen them give her the Dragon pin and make her an honorary Asha'man. Considering she discovered how to Heal gentling, helped Cleanse the taint on saidin, and Healed the effects of the taint that still lingered, she has done more for the cause of male channelers than anyone short of Rand himself. He didn't do that much more than she.

Are the Oaths still in place? If they are are the Aes Sedai starting to really see the impact of their halved lives are having in the organization due to the competitive organizations?

I wish that had been developed more, instead of pretty much being forgotten after Egwene's proposal to Romanda. I think it was another issue where RJ was exploring the effects of belief in contrast with reality, but nothing ever came of it.

Do Egwene's negotiations to cross train with the Aiel and Sea Folk have an impact? Have common folk begun to lose their fear of channelers now that the men don't go insane or do the Aes Sedai still attempt to intimidate all channelers into signing up or going into hiding? I always wondered if RJ was aiming for a return to the AOL style organization of Aes Sedai or if he imagined something new happening post-Dragon. Give the cycle of the Wheel I suspect he envisioned a civilization that gradually moved away from the OP until it was completely forgotten, only to be rediscovered in another Age. But perhaps he was really a believer that the Last Battle was in fact the end to that cycle and envisioned something new for his world.

I think that's a no to the last question, given how each book keeps insisting that it's both an Age long forgotten & yet to come. But that doesn't mean the Fourth Age moves back in the direction of the Second Age. I don't think the AoL was ever supposed to be some sort of ideal to be re-achieved, merely just that old, hindsight-idealized time period that people look back on.

Cannoli
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Survey! Well only sort of ... darius_sedai - 22/09/2016 03:22:39 AM 958 Views

really I think I just want to see some sort of "Origin" stories for all the major eras of the books *NM* darius_sedai - 22/09/2016 03:36:51 PM 251 Views

Hmm. Cannoli - 23/09/2016 01:52:30 AM 571 Views

Love the Nynaeve idea ... I'd read that for certain! darius_sedai - 23/09/2016 04:01:36 AM 547 Views

Re: Love the Nynaeve idea ... I'd read that for certain! Cannoli - 23/09/2016 10:32:19 PM 524 Views

Re: Love the Nynaeve idea ... I'd read that for certain! darius_sedai - 24/09/2016 05:58:39 AM 560 Views

Re: Love the Nynaeve idea ... I'd read that for certain! Dunstan - 08/10/2016 06:08:37 AM 492 Views

Mat and Tuon reclaiming Seanchan... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:56:34 AM 581 Views

2 things I'd have liked to see TyrReborn - 23/09/2016 06:15:57 PM 518 Views

good ideas! I think it would be cool to see both of these too

*NM* darius_sedai - 23/09/2016 07:08:14 PM 275 Views

Re: 2 things I'd have liked to see Cannoli - 23/09/2016 10:33:09 PM 492 Views

Re: 2 things I'd have liked to see darius_sedai - 24/09/2016 05:43:50 AM 442 Views

As I said in a previous thread, I started reading WoT late... TyrReborn - 25/09/2016 11:28:43 PM 466 Views

I do too ... at least during the week

*NM* darius_sedai - 26/09/2016 04:07:52 PM 260 Views

I was going more for "lazy people not willing to put in 5 minutes of work"... TyrReborn - 25/09/2016 11:26:14 PM 461 Views

Re: Survey! Well only sort of ... Dunstan - 08/10/2016 05:29:23 AM 490 Views

That's... actually a really good thought, and one I hadn't ever considered. +1! *NM* TyrReborn - 08/10/2016 05:44:44 PM 240 Views

Another idea/fanfic plot I can think of is "the rouge channeler". Dunstan - 23/10/2016 05:07:42 PM 536 Views

Wards, wards and more wards darius_sedai - 24/10/2016 04:38:46 AM 523 Views

Don't recall there being such a thing as Traveling detection wards. Dunstan - 24/10/2016 07:03:19 AM 461 Views

Well there was the "doorbell" thing darius_sedai - 24/10/2016 04:23:19 PM 443 Views

Maybe the Dragon Blooded could work something out, but even the Forsaken didn't know of such a ward. Dunstan - 24/10/2016 05:15:13 PM 518 Views

we don't know that darius_sedai - 24/10/2016 05:53:34 PM 490 Views

Resetting wards aren't anything new... And yet Sammael used non-resetting ones. Dunstan - 24/10/2016 06:44:32 PM 499 Views

As I said before nothing is fool proof darius_sedai - 24/10/2016 11:47:39 PM 570 Views

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Black Tower exploration would be cool too ... I actually think this and exploring the changes in the WT could be incorporated into the Nynaeve in 100 year story too.  Perhaps her son is an important Asha'man.</quote>
Concerning Nynaeve & the Asha'man, if everyone in charge among them wasn't a total dick, I'd like to have seen them give her the Dragon pin and make her an honorary Asha'man.  Considering she discovered how to Heal gentling, helped Cleanse the taint on <i>saidin</i>, and Healed the effects of the taint that still lingered, she has done more for the cause of male channelers than anyone short of Rand himself.  He didn't do that much more than she.

<quote>  Are the Oaths still in place? If they are are the Aes Sedai starting to really see the impact of their halved lives are having in the organization due to the competitive organizations? </quote>
I wish that had been developed more, instead of pretty much being forgotten after Egwene's proposal to Romanda.  I think it was another issue where RJ was exploring the effects of belief in contrast with reality, but nothing ever came of it.

<quote> Do Egwene's negotiations to cross train with the Aiel and Sea Folk have an impact?  Have common folk begun to lose their fear of channelers now that the men don't go insane or do the Aes Sedai still attempt to intimidate all channelers into signing up or going into hiding?  I always wondered if RJ was aiming for a return to the AOL style organization of Aes Sedai or if he imagined something new happening post-Dragon. Give the cycle of the Wheel I suspect he envisioned a civilization that gradually moved away from the OP until it was completely forgotten, only to be rediscovered in another Age.  But perhaps he was really a believer that the Last Battle was in fact the end to that cycle and envisioned something new for his world.
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I think that's a no to the last question, given how each book keeps insisting that it's both an Age long forgotten & yet to come.   But that doesn't mean the Fourth Age moves back in the direction of the Second Age. I don't think the AoL was ever supposed to be some sort of ideal to be re-achieved, merely just that old, hindsight-idealized time period that people look back on. 
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