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True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal thebestrob Send a noteboard - 30/10/2009 02:57:09 PM
OK - a bit of a mixed bag here, but first post here since wotmania so forgive me. ;)

So we now know that Rand has access to the True Power - what do you think is the significance of it? I'm thinking something along the lines of:

1. True Power could be used to replace Saidin as the power that "touched the dark one" when sealing him back up.

2. True Power could be used to kill the Dark One altogether as Rand seems to be considering more in this book.

3. It's just there to show how close Rand was getting to the Dark One himself. i.e. more like Moridin every day.

Also - during Rand's epiphany when he's questioning why he's fighting, he comes onto the subject of love, and how he's doing this all again to have a second chance. He mentions that "she might have been reborn". which i took to mean Ilyena. What do you think the significance of this is? Could it go back to the old theory that Ilyena was reborn into three bodies (i.e. Avi, Elayne and Min?). Or just musing on Rand's part?

and now that the Choedan Kal is gone, the importance of the chapter where Min and Caddy are talking about the Callandor are more clear. But Rand's clearly going to need that kind of power in the battle with the dark one - why destroy the Choedan Kal? Was it just Rand's way to showing that he shouldn't have that kind of power so readily available? Or do you think there was some other significance?

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True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal - 30/10/2009 02:57:09 PM 3071 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal - 30/10/2009 03:05:52 PM 1240 Views
I agree with you - 30/10/2009 03:24:22 PM 1364 Views
don't forget you can't touch the true power without the DO's permission - 30/10/2009 03:31:25 PM 1141 Views
I think he will overlook it - 30/10/2009 03:46:25 PM 1140 Views
It also might be that Rand used Moridin as a conduit, making the DO's permission irrelevant. - 30/10/2009 03:58:04 PM 1092 Views
Indeed... Moridin is definitely worried about the connection - 30/10/2009 03:59:59 PM 1213 Views
Right - 30/10/2009 04:06:26 PM 1327 Views
Seems to me destroying the DO with balefire would take a force equal to his. - 06/11/2009 09:57:47 AM 986 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal - 30/10/2009 03:28:06 PM 2349 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal - 30/10/2009 03:36:00 PM 1289 Views
Re: True Power, Ilyena, and significance of the Choedan Kal - 30/10/2009 09:48:46 PM 1134 Views
where'd you get the number of Rand's Asha'man? - 30/10/2009 10:12:00 PM 949 Views
Re: where'd you get the number of Rand's Asha'man? - 31/10/2009 12:28:48 AM 954 Views
I must be confused then - 30/10/2009 06:11:38 PM 1050 Views
No... you're right. - 30/10/2009 07:02:05 PM 1040 Views
Hello! The TP can only be used with permission! - 30/10/2009 10:45:58 PM 1118 Views
Nope - 31/10/2009 05:18:03 AM 1503 Views
I'm sorry that's wrong... - 31/10/2009 08:58:14 AM 1031 Views
Believe what you want - 31/10/2009 09:08:52 AM 1063 Views
No, he's right - 31/10/2009 04:59:34 PM 1197 Views
That's what I said *NM* - 31/10/2009 05:24:55 PM 486 Views
I don't need your permission for that... - 31/10/2009 09:57:34 PM 974 Views
Re: I don't need your permission for that... - 01/11/2009 06:54:20 AM 956 Views
You are incorrect - 27/12/2009 10:44:36 PM 967 Views
you're counting on the DO of being absent minded? - 17/04/2010 10:59:41 PM 926 Views
I think using the TP against the DO is wishful thinking. - 31/10/2009 04:33:33 PM 1027 Views
Generally agree. - 06/11/2009 09:07:57 AM 1072 Views

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