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What about Moridin's body? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 09/11/2009 05:45:05 PM
With each passing book it becomes more and more obvious that Rand is similar to the Fisher on Moridin’s sha’rah game:
Yeah, insomuch as Moridin refers to him as such in the very PoV where the game & its piece is introduced. <img class=' />2' /> Hardly something that is becoming more and more obvious! The fact that he is the Dragon Reborn has been more gradually introudced over several books than Moridin's perception of him as the Fisher. Try to recall as well that the game is not some mystical representation of Rand vs. Moridin, but that Moridin simply perceives the game as an analogy of their conflict. It explains more about what Moridin does than the actual nature of reality.

It is clear that the actual struggle between the Dark One and the Creator is working in parallel to the sha’rah game. The Dark One has been manipulating Rand in an attempt to take control of him. Moridin in particular is intimately connected with this effort, which is why Rand sees him in his head (see p.235-236 of The Gathering Storm).
He sees him in his head because when their balefire crossed streams in Shadar Logoth in aCoS, it created a link between them that has made them aware of one another. That is why Moridin is so pissed at Semirhage in this book, and why his hand is bothering him in the prologue. Also why he forbade them to kill Rand in KoD, and why Rand recalled the Ansaline Gardens when thinking of Moridin.
As for Moridin's intimate involvement in the effort to take control of Rand, it is probably Moridin's idea. RJ has stated in the QotW that the Dark One's perception of the world is strongly influenced by the Forsaken, of whom he clearly favors Moridin/Ishamael, which makes it more likely that Moridin's personal philosophy is behind the strategy of the Dark One manipulating the Dragon.

It seems to me that the only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that Rand’s body will be taken over by the Shadow, by Moridin in particular. Jordan, in the very first book, alluded to “myths” of a forgotten past that are certainly not coincidental – Materese of Ind (Mother Theresa of India) and Mosk (Moscow) and Merk (America) as giants who hurled spears at each other. At the same time, the iconography of Rand al’Thor is a complete inversion of our understanding of those symbols.
Symbols, schmymbols. It is indicated by Min's viewing of Rand and another man touching and merging into one another, with one living and one dying, and her not being able to tell which is which. He thinks it is LTT, but we have now seen in tGS that LTT is not a real person. He is certainly not going to survive Rand or vice versa.

Rand is a reincarnation of Lews Therin, a name that sounds like Lucifer. He is the Dragon, which is the symbol of Satan in the Book of Revelation. His hand is marked, like that of the Beast.
IIRC, the mark of the Beast goes on the forehead or hand of his subjects, NOT the Beast himself. If Rand was going around marking people with the Dragon symbol, that would be something else. No, the various marks of Rand a clearly meant to signify the stigmata.

Furthermore, we know that, to live, he must die. This means there is some means by which Rand can survive T’armon Gaidon (Armageddon). It has been stated multiple times that death cannot be Healed. I do not think that this precept would be violated as it seems to be a complete repudiation of the power of the Creator. However, that doesn’t mean that a life couldn’t be transferred from a living body to a freshly dead body.

The body in question would be that of Logain. Logain is a man who radiated an overwhelming light and glory in Min’s vision, something that shocked her. She didn’t think it was possible. Of course, Logain sounds like Logos, the Greek concept of harmony that is translated in the opening passages of the Gospel of John as “the Word”. Logain may die, and Rand will need his body, which will make him seem to rise and make Rand seem to die. At that point Moridin will control the Fisher.
But how would that happen and why? There is already a mechanism in place to explain Rand & Moridin.

The entire world will see the Dragon go to the Shadow, and Logain will stand to stop the Dark One and win the Last Battle for the forces of good. Few will know Rand or recognize him (another thing we’ve heard of).
Or Logain will be seen to fight Moridin in Rand's body or something like that. I tend to think that the aura Min sees refers to Logain himself, rather than his meat-suit. Otherwise it makes as much sense as for her to see a viewing of Rand's shirt, and know that this is the shirt he will wear for some significant deed.

And what might be “unusual” about his children after the battle? Why, the fact that they look nothing like Rand.
Agreed. If they were fathered by Rand in another body, they would not be genetically related to Elayne's children. For that matter, if Rand lives on in another body, he could marry his own daughter by Elayne with no incestuous relationship.
Cannoli
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