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No evidence either way, but you leave a massive gap between Lanfear and the average Forsaken... Shannow Send a noteboard - 13/11/2009 09:31:27 AM

Sharina is said to be stronger than Nynaeve, but Alivia is considerably stronger. I've always believed that Alivia is two levels higher than Nynaeve, but I don't agree with Fionwe that Alivia is as strong as Lanfear.

For me, it probably looks like this...

Lanfear
Cyndane, Alivia
Graendal, Sharina
Semirhage, Mesaana, Nynaeve
Moghedien

Most of what we know sort of confirms this, and Graendal's statement on strength is a vague reference to Lanfear being the only one of the Chosen who exceeds her, sort of like an irritating fact she tries to deny. I don't know how strong Mesaana is, but Sheriam's reaction did surprise me. On the other hand, I also wondered if it was Cyndane who appeared to her - because she has been running around doing Moridin's work in most places, and her orders do countermand Mesaana's.


There is no evidence that Graendal is stronger than Semirhage. But there is no evidence against it either.

The only interaction, is when Graendal talks about Semirhage's power with great respect. If anything, it seems to indicate that Semirhage stood higher than Graendal. But as I said, we don't have the evidence to prove it either way.

My main problem with your list is the MASSIVE gap you leave between someone like Lanfear, and Semirhage for example.

It just doesn't make sense. As I said in my post above, by moving Graendal down BELOW Semirhage, which is entirely plausible, this inexplicable gap is reduced significantly.
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Semirhage's strength in the Power... Shannow - 12/11/2009 06:57:37 AM 1182 Views
No you did not... fionwe1987 - 12/11/2009 07:27:06 AM 801 Views
I'll look again tonight, but I'm sure Nynaeve made a comment... Shannow - 12/11/2009 07:33:29 AM 805 Views
Actually, Nynaeave is far stronger than Moghedian now LordScimitar - 12/11/2009 12:30:29 PM 767 Views
We DON'T know that Graendal is stronger than Semirhage and Mesaana... Shannow - 12/11/2009 12:48:32 PM 861 Views
Wasn't that rather meaningless? fionwe1987 - 12/11/2009 03:26:22 PM 820 Views
Inconsistency? Lord o' Salv - 12/11/2009 08:53:39 AM 734 Views
Holding a shield vs. making one... fionwe1987 - 12/11/2009 03:19:09 PM 700 Views
Don't they clearly say one single would suffice but they used 2 for Lord o' Salv - 13/11/2009 04:57:15 AM 638 Views
To HOLD her. Didn't I make the distinction clear? fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 05:04:58 AM 612 Views
Reducing the number of people holding the shield, reduces the strength of the shield correspondingly Shannow - 13/11/2009 07:15:24 AM 607 Views
Not necessarily true (Plus, another possibility)... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 07:43:37 AM 598 Views
I agree about the angreal, but not the 1 woman shield part... Shannow - 13/11/2009 07:50:26 AM 634 Views
Agree to disagree? fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:07:59 AM 611 Views
Sure, just a couple of points... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:18:15 AM 689 Views
Re: Sure, just a couple of points... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:51:28 AM 688 Views
Interesting concept... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:59:53 AM 709 Views
The answer lies in a fundamental difference between spinning and maintaining a weave... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:33:00 AM 698 Views
Yeah, I posted on this Sidious - 12/11/2009 08:53:26 PM 679 Views
Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 12:42:37 AM 709 Views
Mesaana thought she matched Semirhage catkin - 13/11/2009 01:45:09 AM 841 Views
Agree with many points Lord o' Salv - 13/11/2009 05:07:53 AM 688 Views
Re: Agree with many points fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 05:16:12 AM 599 Views
And that means nothing... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 05:08:44 AM 700 Views
Re: Hmmm.... Sidious - 13/11/2009 06:56:56 AM 638 Views
I think Sanderson just doesn't have the interest and knowledge of relative strength that RJ did.. Shannow - 13/11/2009 07:07:45 AM 628 Views
Re: Hmmm.... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 07:59:57 AM 696 Views
The reason behind our (certainly MY) hesitance to place Nynaeve too high, is Alivia... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:04:51 AM 716 Views
There is a simple answer... skill... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 08:21:25 AM 711 Views
Except that... Shannow - 13/11/2009 08:49:15 AM 705 Views
We only assume that... fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:08:56 AM 731 Views
Well... Shannow - 13/11/2009 09:25:08 AM 697 Views
fionwe1987 - 13/11/2009 09:53:39 AM 604 Views
What about Sharina? Sidious - 13/11/2009 09:17:20 AM 607 Views
No evidence either way, but you leave a massive gap between Lanfear and the average Forsaken... Shannow - 13/11/2009 09:31:27 AM 715 Views
I don't think it's massive Sidious - 13/11/2009 09:46:27 AM 687 Views
I disagree with your last comment Shannow - 13/11/2009 09:58:03 AM 733 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 13/11/2009 03:57:48 PM 724 Views
Re: Hmm... Watcher - 13/11/2009 07:54:23 PM 695 Views
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