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Also, the part that has me stumped at this point... Shannow Send a noteboard - 15/12/2009 01:49:24 PM

Ultimately your potential determines your gateway size. Asmodean's statement that the Power only had to do with the making of the gateway is the most correct one.

You need a certain amount of saidin or saidar to create the weave and make it effective e.g. 20 saidin/saidar. After that, when the gateway opens, it will do so until it reaches your potential, or until you stop it. This explains why Rand can make many deathgates of the same size.

I do think that Talents and strength in Spirit allow you to open a gateway with less saidin/saidar e.g. 15 saidin. This would theoretically allow you to open more gateways e.g. deathgates, even though their size would be limited.


Is whether the minimum strength threshold for creating a gateway can be as low as one sixth of Rand's strength? Because I'm pretty sure most Aes Sedai are stronger than one sixth of Rand's strength, and yet they cannot make gateways.

Furthermore, the argument can then also be made that the minimum strength threshhold for making a gateway is one sixth of LOGAIN's strength, since he also makes six (slightly smaller) gateways at once.

If that's the case, then the minimum strength to make a gateway may be as low as on seventh of Rand's strength, or even less, if you make smaller gateways.

So the above leads me to believe that it isn't as simple as simply dividing your strength by the number of gateways you can make. Rather, you need a minimum level of strength to make a gateway weave, but you don't necessarily need 6 times as much strength to make six gateways.
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Gateway size and One Power strength - a theoretical model... Shannow - 15/12/2009 08:42:26 AM 790 Views
There's this.... Light in the Night - 15/12/2009 09:58:26 AM 440 Views
Yes Shannow - 15/12/2009 10:21:54 AM 343 Views
Rand's later quotes confirm, but also refute this. Also, Egwene throws a wrench in things..... Logain - 15/12/2009 04:02:33 PM 441 Views
both of thoes example still fit into this theory Apsalar Shadowdancer - 16/12/2009 08:49:35 AM 353 Views
who's gateway size have we seen increase? Onarishma - 15/12/2009 12:06:58 PM 404 Views
Neald... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:18:24 PM 389 Views
Nice points, I wonder... Etzel - 15/12/2009 12:16:22 PM 351 Views
Angreal or sa'angreal do not increase your gateway size... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:21:10 PM 359 Views
I can't remember Asmo's comment. Etzel - 15/12/2009 12:23:46 PM 447 Views
Light in the Night quotes it above... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:27:42 PM 295 Views
Unfortunately Etzel - 15/12/2009 12:37:21 PM 325 Views
I'm pretty sure that Rand makes the maximum possible gateway for one person... Shannow - 15/12/2009 12:41:48 PM 314 Views
Yes, just wanted to mention this point. *NM* Etzel - 15/12/2009 01:03:46 PM 392 Views
Re: I'm pretty sure that Rand makes the maximum possible gateway for one person... Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:44:46 PM 408 Views
Well they might Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:42:24 PM 337 Views
How big was Cadsuane's gateway? Shannow - 15/12/2009 01:43:20 PM 429 Views
Re: How big was Cadsuane's gateway? Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:00:58 PM 333 Views
So 8 or 9 feet, I'd say...Edited to add another possibility. Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:05:48 PM 308 Views
Re: So 8 or 9 feet, I'd say... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:09:06 PM 369 Views
I came up with another possibility after first replying to this issue... Shannow - 15/12/2009 02:11:41 PM 347 Views
Re: I came up with another possibility after first replying to this issue... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:16:23 PM 326 Views
and in the TGS Siuan uses Vora's sa'angreal darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 04:56:34 PM 349 Views
I agree w/ you. Siuan and Vora's sa'angreal refutes one of the points in the original post *NM* Logain - 15/12/2009 05:08:23 PM 171 Views
Another theory Ryan - 15/12/2009 05:26:45 PM 338 Views
Excellent points darius_sedai - 15/12/2009 06:08:09 PM 320 Views
Ah, but what if it is on a genetic level? Ryan - 16/12/2009 05:08:29 AM 299 Views
Re: Ah, but what if it is on a genetic level? darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 05:20:14 AM 324 Views
What about Siuan and Vora's sa'angreal? Logain - 15/12/2009 04:06:55 PM 358 Views
Yes, pretty much Sidious - 15/12/2009 01:41:34 PM 325 Views
The interesting part is... Shannow - 15/12/2009 01:44:46 PM 336 Views
It seems to be a mental thing Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:06:25 PM 322 Views
Also, the part that has me stumped at this point... Shannow - 15/12/2009 01:49:24 PM 365 Views
Re: Also, the part that has me stumped at this point... Sidious - 15/12/2009 02:04:04 PM 423 Views
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