What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida.
fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM
The last time Elaida was in such a tight spot (Alviarin begins to blackmail her), she raged for a time, before her complete belief in her Foretelling made her toughen up.
I have to wonder, given her previous behavior, if she will see this as the end of her hopes or merely as another inconvenience which she will</i? overcome because "prophesy" said so.
Maybe her misguided interpretations of prophesy will yet end up benefiting the Light, and ultimately lead to her redemption.
I have to wonder, given her previous behavior, if she will see this as the end of her hopes or merely as another inconvenience which she will</i? overcome because "prophesy" said so.
Maybe her misguided interpretations of prophesy will yet end up benefiting the Light, and ultimately lead to her redemption.
RJ was quite unforgiving with these things. Just like Liandrin will never break the shield on her and Galina will never leave the Waste. Even non-df's who are selfish or petty see long lasting punishments... Amathera will never be Panarch again, and while she seemingly has found love and a life, she's "been put in her place", Siuan and Leane both suffered dramatic loss in OP Strength for their lying and meddling etc...
I imagine the next we see of Suffa she'll be a good damane, probably in Tuon's personal retinue and maybe with more control of her Foretelling
How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan?
- 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM
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Not long
- 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM
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I disagree with the Asha'man part
- 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM
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You misinterpreted me
- 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM
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Maybe never. She still has her foretelling...
- 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM
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I doubt it
- 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM
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What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida.
- 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM
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Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida.
- 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM
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PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM*
- 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM
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Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM*
- 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM
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yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning
- 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM
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She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM*
- 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM
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Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC.
- 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM
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Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live 
*NM*
- 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM
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*NM*
- 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM
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Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example.
- 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM
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Brutal, but effective
- 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM
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If it was that simple...
- 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM
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You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien.
- 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM
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good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM*
- 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM
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I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this.
- 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM
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