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You're mis-understanding something Logain Send a noteboard - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM
Elaida cannot "show" anything. The sul'dam actually controls the weaving of the flows. The damane does not. It is impossible for Elaida to take control of the flows and show them where each weave is placed, etc. The best Elaida can do is try to explain it to the sul'dam. The sul'dam then has to guess as to what Elaida means and try to form something approaching semblance to what Elaida has described.

The only way for Elaida to "show" a weave to the sul'dam is to take the collar off of her. She can then weave whatever she wants.

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How long until Elaida is broken and reveals the Travelling Weave to the Seanchan? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 16/12/2009 03:05:44 PM 1091 Views
Knowing Elaida's ego Etzel - 16/12/2009 03:30:38 PM 661 Views
Re: Knowing Elaida's ego BlackAdder - 16/12/2009 03:54:28 PM 629 Views
Not long DomA - 16/12/2009 04:21:27 PM 742 Views
I disagree with the Asha'man part darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 06:41:46 PM 673 Views
You misinterpreted me DomA - 17/12/2009 01:38:09 AM 658 Views
OH! I see now what you meant *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:09:13 AM 366 Views
That could be ironic ajfurst - 17/12/2009 06:27:36 AM 530 Views
Re: That could be ironic DomA - 17/12/2009 03:12:30 PM 584 Views
I'd like to see Tuon do something that helps the good guys Logain - 17/12/2009 05:07:07 PM 561 Views
Maybe never. She still has her foretelling... fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:16:44 PM 593 Views
I doubt it darius_sedai - 16/12/2009 10:28:10 PM 660 Views
What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. fionwe1987 - 16/12/2009 10:48:09 PM 1029 Views
Re: What lies did Leanne tell? Really, there's no reason to dismiss a redemptive arc for Elaida. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:15:46 AM 631 Views
PS why give Elaida a new name "Suffa" only to have her redeemed? *NM* darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 12:52:13 AM 580 Views
Tuli was redeemed rescued. *NM* Gher - 17/12/2009 12:59:12 AM 281 Views
yes but Suffa has a whole other meaning darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:29:37 AM 549 Views
I was mostly kidding. Gher - 17/12/2009 01:37:26 AM 508 Views
Fair enough darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 02:07:00 AM 551 Views
She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/12/2009 05:30:41 AM 271 Views
Re: She suffers punishment and is then redeemed? BS said Elaida would be in the outriggers, IIRC. darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:32:59 PM 558 Views
I agree. This doesn't reveal anything about her role. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:42:31 PM 487 Views
Hmm, OK, that's the second time I've heard that. Guess she'll live *NM* BlackAdder - 17/12/2009 06:38:37 PM 265 Views
Breaking her won't solve the entire problem. Look at Moghedien's example. Logain - 17/12/2009 12:57:36 AM 595 Views
Brutal, but effective darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 01:31:49 AM 580 Views
If it was that simple... Logain - 17/12/2009 02:14:55 PM 507 Views
not without revealing who she was to the AS darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 06:33:40 PM 824 Views
You're forgetting that Egwene, Nynaeve and Elayne didn't "break" Moghedien. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:48:14 PM 485 Views
good point. I agree on the difficulty of learning from the damane *NM* amirebram - 17/12/2009 06:20:51 AM 273 Views
I think there is a degree of over-complexity you are bringing to this. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2009 07:41:28 PM 626 Views
You're mis-understanding something Logain - 17/12/2009 08:04:11 PM 500 Views
No they don't darius_sedai - 17/12/2009 08:07:59 PM 516 Views
As above, they don't. redqueen - 25/12/2009 06:06:28 PM 578 Views
I don't think Elaida will need to be broken to reveal it... MightyYT - 18/12/2009 10:47:21 AM 501 Views
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