Re: It may sound silly, but did you look at One Power values in the Wheel of Time CCG?
taura-tierno Send a noteboard - 05/01/2010 07:33:21 AM
The game was produced in close collaboration with Jordan.
All Forsaken typically roll 4 dice for One Power (Ishamael and Lanfear get 5, though). Elaida gets 3. Egwene the Accepted gets 2. Elayne the Accepted gets 2. Liandrin gets 2. Moiraine gets 2. Nynaeve gets 2 (Moghedien gets 4 - I checked). Rand starts with 2 but "Rand the King" gets a whopping 5. Siuan as Amyrlin gets 3. Verin gets 2. Leane gets 2. Alanna gets 2.
While Rand, Elayne, Egwene and Nynaeve might have fluctuating values, the others give at least an approximation of relative strength. If Ishamael gets 5 dice and Siuan and Elaida get 3, but Moiraine and most other Aes Sedai only get 2, it gives you a way of quantifying One Power ability. The issue is whether we consider that each additional die adds an arithmetic rise in ability or a geometric one. Theoretically, it should only be arithmetic, but a good argument can be made that one would have to take the statistical odds of getting the number of successes needed to "succeed" at tasks in the game with each number of dice and turn that into a power scale.
All Forsaken typically roll 4 dice for One Power (Ishamael and Lanfear get 5, though). Elaida gets 3. Egwene the Accepted gets 2. Elayne the Accepted gets 2. Liandrin gets 2. Moiraine gets 2. Nynaeve gets 2 (Moghedien gets 4 - I checked). Rand starts with 2 but "Rand the King" gets a whopping 5. Siuan as Amyrlin gets 3. Verin gets 2. Leane gets 2. Alanna gets 2.
While Rand, Elayne, Egwene and Nynaeve might have fluctuating values, the others give at least an approximation of relative strength. If Ishamael gets 5 dice and Siuan and Elaida get 3, but Moiraine and most other Aes Sedai only get 2, it gives you a way of quantifying One Power ability. The issue is whether we consider that each additional die adds an arithmetic rise in ability or a geometric one. Theoretically, it should only be arithmetic, but a good argument can be made that one would have to take the statistical odds of getting the number of successes needed to "succeed" at tasks in the game with each number of dice and turn that into a power scale.
Isn't that system obviously flawed, since we know it doesn't reflect the strengthts? You know. Moiraine and Egwene being equal, along with Liandrin? And only 1 dice separating Elaida from Lanfear, even though we know there are several levels between them (Meilyn, Cadsuane, Egwene&Elayne, Nynaeve, etc.)
One Power strength - critical analysis of previous posts and some further ideas
- 03/01/2010 07:59:24 AM
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I support your view, with maybe a few comments to add...
- 03/01/2010 02:58:05 PM
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where is this phantom quote of Egwene "not standing a chance"
- 03/01/2010 05:20:20 PM
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Here's the real quote
- 03/01/2010 05:38:59 PM
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Well that quote perfectly illustrates the skewed way in which you interpret the evidence...
- 03/01/2010 06:18:22 PM
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I also think the quote is specific
- 03/01/2010 06:34:38 PM
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Skill not Strength is the key that and the potential that another FS was with her
- 03/01/2010 06:51:46 PM
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Bah
- 03/01/2010 07:13:01 PM
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Who's arguing that?
- 03/01/2010 07:34:21 PM
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What ARE you arguing?
- 03/01/2010 07:43:06 PM
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That there is far more to strength in her quote!
- 03/01/2010 08:05:20 PM
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Re: That there is far more to strength in her quote!
- 04/01/2010 09:40:05 AM
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and where do I ever say Elayne is only a small step below Moghedien?
- 04/01/2010 03:08:37 PM
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You more than imply it with your own list
- 04/01/2010 03:39:06 PM
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and you are fixated on simple strength to the exclusion of everything else
- 04/01/2010 05:05:54 PM
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Re: and you are fixated on simple strength to the exclusion of everything else
- 04/01/2010 06:46:45 PM
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Tiny Unimportant Objection to "Bell Curve" Point
- 03/01/2010 03:09:55 PM
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Re: Tiny Unimportant Objection to "Bell Curve" Point
- 03/01/2010 04:39:25 PM
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I've got a slightly revised opinion than my last post
- 03/01/2010 05:16:39 PM
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Re: I've got a slightly revised opinion than my last post
- 03/01/2010 06:31:09 PM
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It's actually not that complicated ... simple math actually
- 03/01/2010 07:08:52 PM
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Yes, but to think that RJ put that much effort into it is improbable
- 03/01/2010 07:19:13 PM
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I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
- 03/01/2010 07:56:17 PM
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Re: I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
- 04/01/2010 09:50:38 AM
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Re: I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
- 04/01/2010 03:26:10 PM
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Re: I'm being harsh with one poster who continues to mis-quote things!
- 04/01/2010 03:52:19 PM
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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth
- 04/01/2010 05:09:15 PM
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Dude
- 04/01/2010 06:21:28 PM
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Dude, please go back to Fionwe's post
- 04/01/2010 06:35:03 PM
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A reply...
- 03/01/2010 06:02:33 PM
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The Tower sample is skewed allright, but to the upper side of the strength range...
- 03/01/2010 06:36:45 PM
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Re: A reply...
- 03/01/2010 07:09:55 PM
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I think distance is related to Strength
- 03/01/2010 07:21:46 PM
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Re: A reply...
- 03/01/2010 08:38:07 PM
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amusing side note
- 04/01/2010 05:22:39 AM
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Which is exactly what I envisage the AOL distribution to have looked like...
- 04/01/2010 07:03:51 AM
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Re: Which is exactly what I envisage the AOL distribution to have looked like...
- 04/01/2010 03:29:47 PM
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It may sound silly, but did you look at One Power values in the Wheel of Time CCG?
- 05/01/2010 12:56:41 AM
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Re: It may sound silly, but did you look at One Power values in the Wheel of Time CCG?
- 05/01/2010 07:33:21 AM
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