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Re: Yeah she totally failed there... lyringlas Send a noteboard - 21/01/2010 03:54:36 AM
Moridin - the DO will kill/sacrifice him in the end.


Given Moridin's mindset, if it helps the DO win I don't think he'd mind. The others are likely though.

Uh, I could see Moridin dying once everything else has been fixed, and he realizes that there really was hope for humanity. I think that would be the most bitter, fulfilling way for him to die (knowing everything he fought for was actually for nothing).
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Semi's fate foreshadowed in LoC beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 06:57:00 AM 1423 Views
Nice Catch! *NM* Kieran - 20/01/2010 07:27:13 AM 386 Views
Yeah she totally failed there... Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 07:36:22 AM 649 Views
Re: Yeah she totally failed there... Ryan - 20/01/2010 12:40:31 PM 618 Views
Re: Yeah she totally failed there... lyringlas - 21/01/2010 03:54:36 AM 607 Views
Re: Yeah she totally failed there... Lord Haart - 21/01/2010 06:27:13 PM 547 Views
Re: Yeah she totally failed there... lyringlas - 22/01/2010 10:14:43 PM 506 Views
Her death was in a way foreshadowed, but... Etzel - 20/01/2010 02:06:35 PM 696 Views
I agree ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 03:08:12 PM 631 Views
Why is it impossible? fionwe1987 - 20/01/2010 05:09:50 PM 635 Views
I probably shouldn't have used the word "inconceivable" ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:57:46 PM 589 Views
Do you have a link to that Sanderson quote? beetnemesis - 21/01/2010 07:18:16 AM 565 Views
Here are the quotes ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 03:42:40 PM 723 Views
But I mean, what else should Semirhage think? Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:15:06 PM 495 Views
I guess it depends on how you interpret what KCF said ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:25:34 PM 553 Views
Yes, I see... Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:44:04 PM 511 Views
I agree ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 05:10:48 PM 644 Views
Yeah, both are still a possibility. I hope the DO knew about it, though beetnemesis - 21/01/2010 08:10:05 PM 454 Views
Agreed. It's also terribly bad Deus Ex Machina. Lord Haart - 22/01/2010 10:21:18 AM 455 Views
Or it could simply mean that the DO was aware of the link between Rand and Moridin darius_sedai - 24/01/2010 05:48:38 PM 597 Views
See, those quotes imply to me that I'm close to the truth... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 07:41:08 PM 583 Views
I like the idea that Graendal was involved, perhaps that gives her the last laugh in a sense. *NM* Lord Haart - 22/01/2010 10:22:50 AM 356 Views
The more I think about it ... Shishka - 22/01/2010 06:35:32 PM 555 Views
Agreed Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:34:31 PM 493 Views
You don't need a connection to the DO to access the TP. fionwe1987 - 25/01/2010 04:54:00 PM 624 Views
how do you know? Sidious - 25/01/2010 08:58:41 PM 544 Views
RJ said so... Shishka quoted it somewhere in this thread. fionwe1987 - 25/01/2010 11:45:30 PM 614 Views
Thanks Sidious - 26/01/2010 04:13:00 AM 550 Views
Re: I agree ... DomA - 24/01/2010 07:13:35 PM 573 Views
Great post. It's certainly possible that it was an oppotunistic gamble. *NM* Lord Haart - 25/01/2010 06:32:54 AM 326 Views
That's the way I'm leaning now, too ... Shishka - 25/01/2010 03:33:06 PM 577 Views
I disagree... Nargs - 20/01/2010 04:26:18 PM 505 Views
I agree with Nargs Lord Haart - 20/01/2010 04:41:09 PM 564 Views
(Quick sidenote: Semi and the DO didn't "bond" while sealed away) beetnemesis - 21/01/2010 07:23:51 AM 541 Views
The problem is... Etzel - 20/01/2010 04:41:37 PM 596 Views
Re: The problem is... Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:34:31 PM 610 Views
Moridin says in the prologue that Semirhage was ordered to capture Rand... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:10:44 PM 505 Views
Re: The problem is... Datakim - 20/01/2010 06:53:53 PM 431 Views
It's said... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:08:08 PM 457 Views
Here's the thing: Can we agree that best-case for the DO is DarkRand? beetnemesis - 21/01/2010 07:14:01 AM 610 Views
You can... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:25:09 PM 552 Views
Can you? fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:00:57 PM 564 Views
The plan worked... Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:18:05 PM 530 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:56:25 PM 601 Views
Not true. All the Shadow needs is 13 Mydraal and 13 BA. And they have that. Lord Haart - 22/01/2010 10:27:22 AM 631 Views
So... Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:52:48 AM 439 Views
Where did you get that idea? darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 06:14:20 PM 444 Views
From fionwe1987's statement Etzel - 22/01/2010 07:01:36 PM 430 Views
none of that says he thinks it's "good for the Light" darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:07:34 PM 490 Views
Because he thinks it would end in a disaster for the Shadow. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 08:04:23 PM 555 Views
I don't know if that's what he really thinks darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:04:09 PM 539 Views
Never heard of the term phyrric victory, have you? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:24:59 PM 500 Views
But look... Etzel - 23/01/2010 07:59:51 AM 537 Views
Re: But look... Datakim - 23/01/2010 09:07:20 AM 502 Views
Re: But look... Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 11:39:33 AM 598 Views
Mindtrapping has some advantages over the 13+13 trick Etzel - 23/01/2010 12:14:44 PM 568 Views
Re: But look... Datakim - 23/01/2010 02:00:53 PM 495 Views
Ishy never had a chance to capture Rand until now. Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 03:32:29 PM 424 Views
Re: Ishy never had a chance to capture Rand until now. Datakim - 23/01/2010 05:11:57 PM 560 Views
Re: Ishy never had a chance to capture Rand until now. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 06:44:20 PM 642 Views
Moghedien says... Etzel - 23/01/2010 12:05:13 PM 441 Views
Re: Moghedien says... Datakim - 23/01/2010 01:53:28 PM 513 Views
Then force Rand with the DB to swear those Oaths before mindtrapping him. Etzel - 23/01/2010 01:56:50 PM 409 Views
Re: Then force Rand with the DB to swear those Oaths before mindtrapping him. Datakim - 23/01/2010 02:10:24 PM 479 Views
I like your idea Etzel - 23/01/2010 02:19:49 PM 515 Views
Re: I like your idea Datakim - 23/01/2010 05:24:14 PM 488 Views
Re: I like your idea Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 06:54:42 PM 373 Views
Ugh Sidious - 22/01/2010 02:41:27 PM 633 Views
Re: Ugh Datakim - 22/01/2010 03:33:54 PM 577 Views
Re: Ugh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:24:15 PM 580 Views
Re: Ugh Datakim - 22/01/2010 05:54:17 PM 478 Views
Re: Ugh Sidious - 22/01/2010 06:45:05 PM 392 Views
Re: Ugh Datakim - 22/01/2010 08:13:11 PM 420 Views
Re: Ugh Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:19:08 PM 533 Views
Re: Ugh Datakim - 23/01/2010 09:01:29 AM 444 Views
Aviendha admits that she has toh to Rand for her mistake not raising alarm more quickly. NM* Etzel - 23/01/2010 09:09:05 AM 597 Views
Re: Ugh darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 06:02:53 PM 498 Views
Re: Ugh Sidious - 22/01/2010 06:43:22 PM 563 Views
Re: Ugh darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:05:00 PM 583 Views
Re: Ugh Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:13:54 PM 500 Views
sigh ... darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:16:29 PM 504 Views
Re: Ugh Lord Haart - 22/01/2010 05:19:49 PM 580 Views
Re: Ugh fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:34:09 PM 509 Views
This just goes to show that the intention was not to escape but to make Rand use the TP Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 12:59:20 PM 501 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 23/01/2010 01:21:45 PM 526 Views
Or maybe the Shadow wanted Rand to start using the CK destructively. They were almost successful. Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 03:35:18 PM 414 Views
IMO Etzel - 23/01/2010 04:34:54 PM 561 Views
Re: IMO Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 07:03:01 PM 630 Views
I think this is what Graendal wanted to make him do. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2010 04:16:45 PM 416 Views
The 13 Myrdraal think wouldn't count... would it? beetnemesis - 22/01/2010 07:19:22 AM 528 Views
I don't think it was foreshadowing Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:05:32 PM 490 Views
Perhaps- yet it's also true that RJ plotted things out far in advance beetnemesis - 21/01/2010 07:05:09 AM 483 Views
Yep; I caught this a while back, too. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:01:04 PM 401 Views
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