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Thinking about Cuba mierin sedai - 29/04/2004 05:55:19 AM

Castro was, unless my memory is failing me again (and it wouldn't really surprise me), mentioned as a part of the axis of evil which Bush tried to construct. Even if that is not so, he has always been the bad neighbour, the evil just waiting to sneak into the world. Is there still a ban on Cuban sigars?

Anyway.
What did Castro do that was so wrong?
He did not overthrow a democratic government, like Pinochet did (and the latter was supported by the US). Hindering free speech and opposition is naturally not right, but it is nothing worse than what Batista did.
He created social services, public health, literacy increased to a very high level, improved life for his people.
He was not originally oriented towards Moscow.

Yet trade restrictions were put on Cuba, making Moscow the only thing propping up the country.

The more I think of it, the more I think that it must be one of the biggest failures of the US. Of course it is easier to look at it and see what should have been done after the fact, but still.

Had the US traded with Cuba, it might have kept it from Sovjet, and a Cuba alone might have been more amendable to democracy.
No. There is no point to this post. I was just tired of reading


Magnus Alexander corpore parvus erat
Dissenting voice of wotmania
Frightfully stubborn pacifist

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent

This message last edited by mierin sedai on 4/29/2004 at 11:26:42 AM.




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Thinking about Cuba - 29/04/2004 05:55:19 AM 228 Views
I have always assumed it was because he came to power at the wrong.... - 29/04/2004 06:02:38 AM 34 Views
yes - 29/04/2004 06:04:07 AM 19 Views
No, and the poor Cubans are suffering for it - 29/04/2004 06:07:07 AM 15 Views
to be fair - 29/04/2004 06:08:53 AM 17 Views
True - 29/04/2004 06:15:10 AM 21 Views
it is official then - 29/04/2004 06:16:56 AM 16 Views
Hardly news? - 29/04/2004 06:19:54 AM 14 Views
lol you are probably right - 29/04/2004 06:22:15 AM 13 Views
I like to think so - 29/04/2004 06:24:31 AM 12 Views
by the way - 29/04/2004 06:27:19 AM 11 Views
Maby it's an old Russian saying? - 29/04/2004 06:32:00 AM 11 Views
probably - 29/04/2004 06:35:06 AM 11 Views
An odd one if it is though - 29/04/2004 06:39:57 AM 9 Views
Isn't the "axis of evil"(lol) Iraq, Iran and N. Korea *NM* - 29/04/2004 07:35:26 AM 12 Views
nope - 29/04/2004 07:37:17 AM 27 Views
Thanks, didn't know that *NM* - 29/04/2004 07:47:32 AM 4 Views
Wrong - 29/04/2004 09:07:04 AM 25 Views
ah. ok. me bad - 29/04/2004 09:11:29 AM 18 Views
Me bad? - 29/04/2004 09:48:24 AM 13 Views
You did? - 29/04/2004 12:36:51 PM 10 Views
Re: Wrong - 29/04/2004 10:20:45 AM 20 Views
The same context? - 29/04/2004 10:50:24 AM 16 Views
Re: The same context? - 29/04/2004 10:55:58 AM 15 Views
Yes *NM* - 29/04/2004 09:05:15 AM 4 Views
Besides, Syria and Libya are already in it with China - 29/04/2004 11:32:13 AM 16 Views
Link - 29/04/2004 08:17:58 AM 32 Views
interesting - 29/04/2004 08:34:19 AM 15 Views
Welcome - 29/04/2004 08:54:46 AM 7 Views
Yeah, nice link. - 29/04/2004 09:17:06 AM 20 Views
Re: Yeah, nice link. - 29/04/2004 09:25:05 AM 18 Views
one example - 29/04/2004 09:37:38 AM 17 Views
How did you interpret it, initially? - 29/04/2004 09:49:42 AM 14 Views
That's just it, it's impossible to decide what it means - 29/04/2004 11:09:03 AM 12 Views
Re: That's just it, it's impossible to decide what it means - 29/04/2004 11:23:33 AM 12 Views
Maybe so. - 29/04/2004 11:30:05 AM 9 Views
Re: Maybe so. - 29/04/2004 11:40:18 AM 8 Views
ummm - 29/04/2004 09:54:55 AM 16 Views
Great - 29/04/2004 11:10:26 AM 14 Views
I'm a bit suprised at this - 29/04/2004 10:35:53 AM 14 Views
On the use of the word "axis" - 29/04/2004 10:43:34 AM 12 Views
Re: On the use of the word "axis" - 29/04/2004 10:49:06 AM 11 Views
All evil revolves around Iran, Iraq and N. Korea? *NM* - 29/04/2004 10:53:42 AM 5 Views
Not all, - 29/04/2004 10:58:03 AM 10 Views
Ok *NM* - 29/04/2004 11:02:11 AM 4 Views
The original 'Axis' - 29/04/2004 10:52:32 AM 14 Views
What about the 'of evil' part? *NM* - 29/04/2004 10:56:22 AM 5 Views
Hey, I never considered that... that's weird. *NM* - 29/04/2004 11:11:18 AM 4 Views
So Cuba is part of the secondary axis of evil. - 29/04/2004 11:27:39 AM 25 Views
I agree - 29/04/2004 11:29:50 AM 11 Views
Re: So Cuba is part of the secondary axis of evil. - 29/04/2004 02:04:24 PM 9 Views
I've got a question for you: - 29/04/2004 04:42:34 PM 13 Views
Revolutions are started by the bourgeoisie - 29/04/2004 08:25:04 PM 8 Views
Mind you, I have some very biased sources here... - 30/04/2004 01:13:18 AM 10 Views
naturally - 30/04/2004 03:09:13 AM 10 Views
On that I'll agree with you - 30/04/2004 12:29:11 PM 9 Views
I'm a very very angry capitalist butting in again.... - 30/04/2004 06:43:53 AM 13 Views
You make me laugh - 30/04/2004 06:52:34 AM 12 Views
That bit was no joke pal - 01/05/2004 02:47:44 AM 8 Views
*giggle* - 01/05/2004 06:00:48 AM 13 Views
Re: *giggle* - 02/05/2004 02:40:32 AM 8 Views