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well, my two cents mierin sedai - 29/04/2004 10:34:34 AM


The problem I have is.. Half their bloody population isn't free at all. the women. Under this bullsh*t islamist patriarchy they have set up, women have next to no rights, no freedoms, nada. The men can do whatever they like, as long as they hold to some ancient literature. That's bullsh*t.

PLO is secular, originally.
also: research shows that women will be treated badly when there is not enough money. increase the living standard, and the women will get better lives too. but it is hard to start the other way and say that they don't deserve to have better lives because the women are not equal to the men.
there have actually been great improvements in the lives of palestinian muslim women over the last decades. there was for instance a ruling my a qadi, increasing the minor age of marriage.

The struggle for freedom begins at home. If you can't allow your wife to be free to make her own choices, you don't deserve any freedom yourself. So, in my mind, I guess it boils down to religion. If the palestinians can get past this backward, oppressive islamist cultural bullsh*t, then maybe I could see supporting them.

look above.

*sigh* It is hard to be nice when one lives in such a f**ked up place.

yes


Magnus Alexander corpore parvus erat
Dissenting voice of wotmania
Frightfully stubborn pacifist

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent




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well, my two cents - 29/04/2004 10:34:34 AM 21 Views
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first give them autonomy, then *NM* - 29/04/2004 05:31:32 PM 8 Views
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