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it´s not always the choice... ponder stibbons - 01/05/2004 03:58:59 AM

... of the revolutionists.
It is rumoured that in November 1989, when masses in East Berlin peacefully demanded the opening of the Wall, GDR´s gouvernment considered a "Chinese Solution". Dunno how serious this is to take, though.

Or does it more depend on the goal of the movement?
In a certain way. Could you imagine demanding peacefully that all "men with connected eyebrows" should be slaughtered? The term in inverted commas is to be replaced by the ethnic/racial/lingual/whatever minority of your choice.

There have been many movements though the years, and it seems that the answer is different with the circumstances.
Yep. It seems to be the case, however, that peaceful revolutions achieve a wider acceptance. This is most important if it gets to the question what is to be done after the revolution succeeded. A leader that has waded knee-deep in blood is sometimes a little hard to acknowledge for neighbouring states. Plus in our complex society it is all but impossible to keep everything functioning without help by former rulers or their minions. The latter being somehow hard to get if those people are a litle short of heads.


I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
(Terry Pratchett)




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Which is truly more effective? Violent revolutions, or peaceful ones? - 30/04/2004 09:13:22 PM 179 Views
Well, which has worked more in the past? *NM* - 30/04/2004 09:14:28 PM 4 Views
Peaceful. *NM* - 30/04/2004 09:19:39 PM 4 Views
Is that the one you really think is more effective... - 30/04/2004 09:20:23 PM 22 Views
Hehe. - 30/04/2004 09:40:51 PM 25 Views
lol.. - 30/04/2004 10:22:23 PM 18 Views
Yeah, yeah. - 30/04/2004 10:30:51 PM 14 Views
Which do you mean: movements or revolutions? - 30/04/2004 09:29:16 PM 11 Views
Believe it or not.. a serious (somewhat) post from Jessie! - 30/04/2004 09:32:56 PM 33 Views
Stop being smart Jessie! - 30/04/2004 09:34:55 PM 15 Views
You don't like my being smart, for once? - 30/04/2004 09:59:47 PM 13 Views
See? *NM* - 30/04/2004 10:00:57 PM 6 Views
Yeah, I like this Jessie. *NM* - 30/04/2004 10:32:11 PM 4 Views
You like me stupid?! *NM* - 30/04/2004 10:37:52 PM 4 Views
Well, no... - 30/04/2004 10:39:33 PM 13 Views
That's a bunch of bs, David. - 30/04/2004 10:41:14 PM 13 Views
Re: That's a bunch of bs, David. - 30/04/2004 10:44:29 PM 13 Views
Right. - 30/04/2004 10:47:53 PM 12 Views
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Re: Right. - 30/04/2004 11:12:24 PM 11 Views
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Effectiveness is - 30/04/2004 10:15:34 PM 37 Views
Pretty much what I was going to say - 30/04/2004 10:19:20 PM 10 Views
hmm.. - 30/04/2004 10:33:10 PM 18 Views
Are...are you planing on overthrowing the US government? *NM* - 30/04/2004 10:40:16 PM 5 Views
no. something different. *NM* - 30/04/2004 10:47:07 PM 3 Views
it would take many centuries - 30/04/2004 10:43:16 PM 13 Views
we'll see about that. *NM* - 30/04/2004 10:46:41 PM 3 Views
hmmm Two apposing examples - 01/05/2004 12:45:28 AM 13 Views
it´s not always the choice... - 01/05/2004 03:58:59 AM 9 Views
Depends on opponent, situation, what chorabliss said... - 01/05/2004 03:38:56 PM 5 Views
Revolutions with the majority of the population involved. *NM* - 01/05/2004 05:20:38 PM 3 Views
*NM* *NM* - 02/05/2004 02:44:14 AM 13 Views