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No surprises here, I suppose. Camilla Send a noteboard - 07/06/2010 07:05:47 PM
I really like it. And I did not expect to.

And the reason I like it is related to why it is so difficult to explain why I like it. It does not fit any moulds. But I'll try.

First, I am usually rather attracted to stories of those opposing a homogenising entity; but this attraction leaves a bad taste because the big bad is almost invariably the government and the hero the one refusing to participate in the ordered society. This does not work with my ideological stance. I am in favour of a strong government, one in which we pay a lot of tax and get a lot in return. This gets swept over in the rather facile "fight the man" scenarios. I am thinking in part about Firefly.

But this book takes on patterns and changes them. It is what it does. That is the point of it, in a way. And one of the things it does is take the pattern of lone hero vs big bad entity, and inserting using it to discuss the inhumanity of big corporations instead. I like that. In part because it fits much better with my world view.

But I must stress that the changing of patterns itself is what really appeals to me. I like how the form, the shape, of the book harmonises with the content (yes, I know the opposition of the two is old-fashioned, but sometimes it is useful) and the expression of the book to such an extent. Simplified: it is about the danger of simply following patterns, about how departing from them, rejecting them and going down a different path is good; the book then expresses this through a story which itself takes patterns and changes them -- the ninjas and pirates are not the ninjas and pirates of the internet subculture, the big bad vs hero is not the conventional one, mimes are not scary, I could go on and on --; and then the language itself is purposefully idiosyncratic. That is what all those weird formulations come in.

And I love the characters, but I'll discuss that below.

I love the way it pretends to be linear and rambling, and then picks up again precisely those things which at the time you first read them seemed like they had simply been put in because the author's mind was overflowing and his editor did not want to cut it. It is baroque. All those people who love minimalism are going to hate this book, but the baroque style appeals to me. And it takes things apart in order to put them together in a different way -- and that is something I value very highly in literature.

And now I am going to sound a little nuts. Usually, when I read, books or sections of books have colours and shapes in my mind. It is not a conscious thing, but something my brain uses to make sense of the world, I think. Philosophy texts usually only have one colour. So do some books, where the focus is on one pattern, one idea and the development of it. This one has an insane number of colours and shapes. That is a good thing.
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June Book Club: The Gone-Away World by Nick Harkaway - 07/06/2010 06:09:34 PM 1363 Views
What did you think? Love, hate, etc? *NM* - 07/06/2010 06:10:02 PM 461 Views
For the most part, and closer to the end I really liked it. - 07/06/2010 07:05:38 PM 909 Views
Re: For the most part, and closer to the end I really liked it. - 07/06/2010 07:07:49 PM 873 Views
No surprises here, I suppose. - 07/06/2010 07:05:47 PM 932 Views
I enjoyed his flow. - 08/06/2010 04:55:49 AM 717 Views
Re: I enjoyed his flow. - 15/06/2010 02:30:07 PM 869 Views
I haven't bothered re-reading it yet - 07/06/2010 09:12:58 PM 900 Views
Neither. Good, but not that deep, and with some annoying things. - 07/06/2010 10:29:18 PM 828 Views
Mostly regarding being tricked - 08/06/2010 08:47:56 AM 1029 Views
*lol* Don't give up on your thesis just yet. - 08/06/2010 09:20:16 AM 939 Views
Re: *lol* Don't give up on your thesis just yet. - 08/06/2010 12:54:53 PM 862 Views
Why am I not surprised. *NM* - 08/06/2010 01:07:47 PM 448 Views
Re: Mostly regarding being tricked - 08/06/2010 01:42:31 PM 828 Views
Re: Mostly regarding being tricked - 08/06/2010 01:43:22 PM 931 Views
Love? More like enjoyed it a lot. - 08/06/2010 04:45:24 AM 936 Views
I'm mostly ambivalent. - 08/06/2010 01:52:31 PM 983 Views
Re: I'm mostly ambivalent. - 15/06/2010 03:07:55 PM 851 Views
Is it successful as a satire? - 07/06/2010 06:11:11 PM 753 Views
Yes, as long as we are clear on one thing: that is not all it does. - 07/06/2010 08:29:59 PM 880 Views
I'd say so, yes. - 07/06/2010 11:05:35 PM 772 Views
Partially. - 08/06/2010 01:58:19 PM 898 Views
Characters: - 07/06/2010 06:12:29 PM 949 Views
Ninjas! - 07/06/2010 07:11:02 PM 800 Views
After the introduction in chapter one... - 07/06/2010 07:31:48 PM 932 Views
One of my favourite things about this book. *spoilers* (do we need to mark spoilers here?) - 07/06/2010 07:58:36 PM 1077 Views
No. You don't need to mark spoilers. *NM* - 07/06/2010 08:55:03 PM 464 Views
I disliked everyone except Master Wu. - 08/06/2010 01:59:27 PM 847 Views
Re: Characters: - 09/06/2010 03:03:40 AM 1128 Views
Re: Characters: - 15/06/2010 02:56:01 PM 788 Views
Re: I really disliked how many GROUPS there were. - 09/06/2010 11:59:33 AM 847 Views
Quite. They were all pretty much ciphers. *NM* - 12/06/2010 01:26:13 PM 365 Views
The BIG twist: - 07/06/2010 06:13:38 PM 915 Views
Not such a surprise - 07/06/2010 07:01:24 PM 887 Views
Re: Not such a surprise - 08/06/2010 05:13:02 AM 876 Views
The parents thing confused me too. - 08/06/2010 08:16:29 AM 933 Views
My first reaction was to be a little pissed off - 07/06/2010 07:23:09 PM 788 Views
Apparently I was the only person who did not see it coming *spoilers* - 07/06/2010 08:51:01 PM 938 Views
Don't worry, Tim didn't either. *NM* - 07/06/2010 08:52:43 PM 446 Views
It annoyed me in Fight Club, and it annoyed me here. - 07/06/2010 10:06:17 PM 1007 Views
Yeah, annoyed me too. - 08/06/2010 02:02:43 PM 965 Views
Well... - 08/06/2010 05:10:56 AM 876 Views
Re: Well... - 08/06/2010 08:58:26 AM 947 Views
Re: I guessed it in the second chapter. - 09/06/2010 12:00:49 PM 870 Views
I clearly need to reread Thief of Time. - 13/06/2010 06:07:28 PM 716 Views
Re: Spoiler for Thief of Time : - 14/06/2010 08:27:33 AM 881 Views
Hm. I vaguely remember that stuff. - 14/06/2010 05:52:16 PM 767 Views
Re: Hm. I vaguely remember that stuff. - 15/06/2010 02:47:05 PM 848 Views
Ideas - 07/06/2010 06:15:25 PM 912 Views
Re: Ideas - 07/06/2010 07:29:51 PM 754 Views
Re: Ideas - 08/06/2010 12:41:31 PM 785 Views
Re: Ideas - 08/06/2010 02:09:08 PM 837 Views
Re: I agree with you, and I think it is one of the drawbacks of the novel. - 09/06/2010 12:07:51 PM 802 Views
Re: I agree with you, and I think it is one of the drawbacks of the novel. - 09/06/2010 06:26:20 PM 851 Views
Re: I think you tend to read something and then decide that it is not fit for the genre it is trying - 10/06/2010 09:23:29 AM 679 Views
I think you have misunderstood. - 15/06/2010 02:31:42 PM 864 Views
The New People - 07/06/2010 07:32:46 PM 913 Views
I know how I would have reacted in real life - 08/06/2010 01:20:04 PM 835 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 08/06/2010 02:09:39 PM 360 Views
Re: I would have been one of those awkward hypocrites who tried to be cool with it. - 09/06/2010 12:11:51 PM 809 Views
I kind of wish I would. - 15/06/2010 02:33:25 PM 773 Views
The first chapter - 07/06/2010 09:01:13 PM 965 Views
Liked it. - 07/06/2010 09:21:50 PM 971 Views
I was warned beforehand about the endless flashback. - 07/06/2010 11:16:03 PM 955 Views
Re: I was warned beforehand about the endless flashback. - 08/06/2010 08:37:30 AM 705 Views
My Take. - 08/06/2010 05:27:32 AM 883 Views
Re: My take. - 08/06/2010 08:51:13 AM 773 Views
That's a good point. I think you might be right. - 13/06/2010 06:11:27 PM 641 Views
Favourite scenes - 08/06/2010 01:31:57 PM 859 Views
re: mimes and the Voiceless Dragon (and other scenes) - 09/06/2010 02:39:48 AM 828 Views
Re: re: mimes and the Voiceless Dragon (and other scenes) - 09/06/2010 09:27:06 AM 854 Views
What I liked. - 13/06/2010 06:14:40 PM 793 Views
There were a few of those, yeah. - 13/06/2010 10:46:27 PM 859 Views
Re: There were a few of those, yeah. - 15/06/2010 02:35:50 PM 747 Views
Re: Ninjas vs. Pirates: Your inner geek votes for? - 09/06/2010 12:05:22 PM 904 Views
Pirates. Everytime. - 12/06/2010 01:29:01 PM 823 Views
Re: Pirates. Everytime. - 15/06/2010 02:40:45 PM 793 Views
I don't consider the pirates thing to be a "pattern" - 15/06/2010 02:52:46 PM 792 Views
My inner geek normally goes with ninjas, but not in this book. - 15/06/2010 02:38:26 PM 784 Views
A question I had while reading the book - was this meant to be set in Britain, the US, or some mix? - 13/06/2010 10:53:03 PM 747 Views
Yeah it drove me nuts that I had no clue where it's set *NM* - 14/06/2010 03:34:13 PM 340 Views
It mostly feels like Britain, but with US overtones. - 14/06/2010 05:51:35 PM 781 Views
I had the same confusion - 15/06/2010 02:45:40 PM 955 Views
The other people in the airfield pond - 15/06/2010 03:04:01 PM 1062 Views
Re: The gasmasked person - 17/06/2010 03:47:55 PM 874 Views
See, that was my first thought as well - 17/06/2010 04:11:45 PM 921 Views
They were scary. - 17/06/2010 06:25:59 PM 822 Views
Re: They were scary. - 17/06/2010 09:12:54 PM 875 Views
Ah, well found. - 17/06/2010 09:17:24 PM 755 Views
The use of tense - 17/06/2010 03:55:01 PM 843 Views
This is a tendency I have noticed in a lot of contemporary literature - 17/06/2010 08:54:55 PM 1159 Views
I've noticed it once or twice - 18/06/2010 10:13:18 AM 910 Views
Re: I've noticed it once or twice - 18/06/2010 10:16:58 AM 1197 Views

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