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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM
If you had a beautiful little bookstore and could stock it with whatever you wanted, wouldn't you have a section devoted to poetry?

In how many languages? Most of my favorite poems aren't in English, despite English being my native language.


Don't you like any English-language poets?

Why is poetry important?

For the same reason other forms of literature are important?


And why is that?

Unless you read Spanish, Latin, or German, you couldn't read them as they ought to be read.


This is what I take issue with. Poetry is harder to translate, I agree. But it is no more impossible than any other piece of literature. The experience will always be different, but that is true of any reading even in the same language.
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Poetry: Novo - 08/11/2010 02:07:39 AM 1658 Views
Re: Poetry: Gaps - 08/11/2010 02:31:01 AM 1192 Views
Answers from someone indifferent. Darth_Katie - 08/11/2010 02:57:38 AM 1106 Views
Poetry nossy - 08/11/2010 03:17:15 AM 1185 Views
Re: Poetry: Larry - 08/11/2010 04:13:38 AM 1140 Views
This is why people dislike you. Dan - 09/11/2010 07:03:17 PM 1138 Views
Umm...I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 08:42:55 PM 1107 Views
Because you should care about being intelligent, rather than appearing to be intelligent. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:32:04 PM 1143 Views
Again, why would I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 10:38:21 PM 1148 Views
No one can make you care about being decent, or intelligent, or a viable member of the community. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:41:34 PM 1066 Views
I think it's rather pointless, to be honest. Larry - 09/11/2010 10:54:17 PM 1104 Views
Then why are you even here? Dan - 09/11/2010 10:59:49 PM 1058 Views
I don't know. I thought I'd see how long I could string you along. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:37 PM 989 Views
You're the one who doesn't care. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:02:11 PM 1028 Views
I care only as much as I care. What others think is irrelevant to that. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:04:15 PM 1039 Views
But you're still responding to me. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:05:37 PM 1091 Views
Because I'm stringing you out until you quit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:10:18 PM 1124 Views
I'm not going to. I find this entertaining. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:12:27 PM 1086 Views
I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM 1066 Views
Come now, who's pretending? Dan - 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM 1075 Views
That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 502 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 423 Views
Me, most of the time Larry - 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM 1065 Views
Keep telling yourself that. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 937 Views
Why would I? It's not something I think much about these days. Again, what others think is trivial. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:01:03 AM 526 Views
What about THE Other? *NM* Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:53 AM 461 Views
I'm not going to quote Sartre here...this time. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:20:22 AM 457 Views
Are you 5? Camilla - 09/11/2010 11:14:26 PM 935 Views
See my original point. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 454 Views
Nah Larry - 09/11/2010 11:15:48 PM 1181 Views
But you were asked about it originally. That was my point. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:23:25 PM 1002 Views
And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM 1054 Views
Why be evasive? Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:19 AM 1178 Views
Because I didn't want to spend an hour pulling out a few dozen books. Larry - 10/11/2010 12:19:55 AM 1177 Views
Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM? Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM 1038 Views
But that takes the fun out of this! *NM* Larry - 09/11/2010 11:21:25 PM 494 Views
Re: Best one liner of the threadjack. Gaps - 10/11/2010 12:37:27 AM 1206 Views
I must say, I'm glad you all decided to play up when I was having an evening off. *NM* Rebekah - 10/11/2010 12:08:59 PM 469 Views
I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM 1060 Views
Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue Larry - 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM 1135 Views
I don't disagree, but you can't possibly learn all languages, yet you can read translations of all. Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:56:58 PM 1135 Views
They are often necessary Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:09 PM 1024 Views
My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM 1078 Views
An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity. Joel - 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM 993 Views
Dante has a lot to answer for. *NM* Camilla - 10/11/2010 08:21:19 PM 446 Views
Ah, but to whom...? Joel - 10/11/2010 09:17:16 PM 1020 Views
K. Ghavrel - 08/11/2010 04:35:56 AM 1213 Views
Re: K. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:59:05 AM 981 Views
Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 1021 Views
Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM 1246 Views
I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible. Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM 1217 Views
Did they just translate logos as... life-light? Dan - 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM 1103 Views
Yes. Yes, they did. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM 414 Views
*sighs* Dan - 09/11/2010 10:28:49 PM 989 Views
My favourite translation of logos is "point of it all". (beat.) - 10/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 1370 Views
Interersting temeraire - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 1114 Views
I can count the poems I enjoy on one hand. Two fingers, in fact. lord-of-shadow - 08/11/2010 06:05:22 PM 1097 Views
I think poetry is largely overrated. Palatine - 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM 1180 Views
And you are basing this on extensive non-reading of poetry? *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:57:06 PM 391 Views
Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. Palatine - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 1121 Views
the problem is most good poets are dead and dead people tend to fail at marketing random thoughts - 08/11/2010 06:44:18 PM 1119 Views
Re: Poetry: Stephen - 08/11/2010 07:04:01 PM 1044 Views
I like some poetry, but by no means all. Camilla - 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM 1233 Views
Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM 452 Views
It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 1216 Views
Re: It is excellent Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:53:24 PM 1056 Views
Re: It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:58:23 PM 1164 Views
Just remembered my favourite poem Stephen - 09/11/2010 10:50:03 PM 1155 Views
That is very nice *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:59:53 PM 548 Views
I'll answer this unnumbered survey. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:37:50 AM 1222 Views
Read: Poetry: Joel - 10/11/2010 12:08:42 PM 1151 Views
Re: Poetry: (beat.) - 10/11/2010 04:57:31 PM 1043 Views
Re: Nice Gaps - 11/11/2010 01:39:48 AM 1185 Views
Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. (beat.) - 11/11/2010 11:57:02 AM 1320 Views
Re: Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. Gaps - 12/11/2010 04:36:22 AM 2044 Views
I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* (beat.) - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 448 Views
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