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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla Send a noteboard - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM
If you had a beautiful little bookstore and could stock it with whatever you wanted, wouldn't you have a section devoted to poetry?

In how many languages? Most of my favorite poems aren't in English, despite English being my native language.


Don't you like any English-language poets?

Why is poetry important?

For the same reason other forms of literature are important?


And why is that?

Unless you read Spanish, Latin, or German, you couldn't read them as they ought to be read.


This is what I take issue with. Poetry is harder to translate, I agree. But it is no more impossible than any other piece of literature. The experience will always be different, but that is true of any reading even in the same language.
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Poetry: Novo - 08/11/2010 02:07:39 AM 1628 Views
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Answers from someone indifferent. Darth_Katie - 08/11/2010 02:57:38 AM 1067 Views
Poetry nossy - 08/11/2010 03:17:15 AM 1153 Views
Re: Poetry: Larry - 08/11/2010 04:13:38 AM 1106 Views
This is why people dislike you. Dan - 09/11/2010 07:03:17 PM 1100 Views
Umm...I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 08:42:55 PM 1072 Views
Because you should care about being intelligent, rather than appearing to be intelligent. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:32:04 PM 1103 Views
Again, why would I care? Larry - 09/11/2010 10:38:21 PM 1120 Views
No one can make you care about being decent, or intelligent, or a viable member of the community. Dan - 09/11/2010 10:41:34 PM 1029 Views
I think it's rather pointless, to be honest. Larry - 09/11/2010 10:54:17 PM 1054 Views
Then why are you even here? Dan - 09/11/2010 10:59:49 PM 1017 Views
I don't know. I thought I'd see how long I could string you along. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:37 PM 947 Views
You're the one who doesn't care. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:02:11 PM 989 Views
I care only as much as I care. What others think is irrelevant to that. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:04:15 PM 989 Views
But you're still responding to me. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:05:37 PM 1057 Views
Because I'm stringing you out until you quit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:10:18 PM 1093 Views
I'm not going to. I find this entertaining. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:12:27 PM 1041 Views
I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM 1024 Views
Come now, who's pretending? Dan - 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM 1038 Views
That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 482 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 398 Views
Me, most of the time Larry - 09/11/2010 11:40:26 PM 1023 Views
Keep telling yourself that. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 900 Views
Why would I? It's not something I think much about these days. Again, what others think is trivial. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:01:03 AM 504 Views
What about THE Other? *NM* Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:53 AM 439 Views
I'm not going to quote Sartre here...this time. *NM* Larry - 10/11/2010 12:20:22 AM 437 Views
Are you 5? Camilla - 09/11/2010 11:14:26 PM 896 Views
See my original point. *NM* Dan - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 430 Views
Nah Larry - 09/11/2010 11:15:48 PM 1148 Views
But you were asked about it originally. That was my point. Dan - 09/11/2010 11:23:25 PM 957 Views
And I was evasive about it at the time. When pressed, I answered more fully. Larry - 09/11/2010 11:48:27 PM 1023 Views
Why be evasive? Dan - 10/11/2010 12:16:19 AM 1132 Views
Because I didn't want to spend an hour pulling out a few dozen books. Larry - 10/11/2010 12:19:55 AM 1141 Views
Ye gods. Could you people at the very, very least make your messages NM? Legolas - 09/11/2010 11:17:25 PM 1005 Views
But that takes the fun out of this! *NM* Larry - 09/11/2010 11:21:25 PM 474 Views
Re: Best one liner of the threadjack. Gaps - 10/11/2010 12:37:27 AM 1157 Views
I must say, I'm glad you all decided to play up when I was having an evening off. *NM* Rebekah - 10/11/2010 12:08:59 PM 456 Views
I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM 1011 Views
Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue Larry - 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM 1097 Views
I don't disagree, but you can't possibly learn all languages, yet you can read translations of all. Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:56:58 PM 1093 Views
They are often necessary Larry - 09/11/2010 11:00:09 PM 982 Views
My choice, hands down, is to ignore the poetry in languages I don't read. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:44:32 AM 1037 Views
An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity. Joel - 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM 949 Views
Dante has a lot to answer for. *NM* Camilla - 10/11/2010 08:21:19 PM 427 Views
Ah, but to whom...? Joel - 10/11/2010 09:17:16 PM 993 Views
K. Ghavrel - 08/11/2010 04:35:56 AM 1176 Views
Re: K. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:59:05 AM 937 Views
Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 984 Views
Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion. Legolas - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM 1200 Views
I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible. Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM 1175 Views
Did they just translate logos as... life-light? Dan - 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM 1059 Views
Yes. Yes, they did. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM 400 Views
*sighs* Dan - 09/11/2010 10:28:49 PM 951 Views
My favourite translation of logos is "point of it all". (beat.) - 10/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 1326 Views
Interersting temeraire - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 1074 Views
I can count the poems I enjoy on one hand. Two fingers, in fact. lord-of-shadow - 08/11/2010 06:05:22 PM 1055 Views
I think poetry is largely overrated. Palatine - 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM 1141 Views
And you are basing this on extensive non-reading of poetry? *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:57:06 PM 371 Views
Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. Palatine - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 1077 Views
the problem is most good poets are dead and dead people tend to fail at marketing random thoughts - 08/11/2010 06:44:18 PM 1090 Views
Re: Poetry: Stephen - 08/11/2010 07:04:01 PM 1006 Views
I like some poetry, but by no means all. Camilla - 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM 1191 Views
Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM* Legolas - 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM 433 Views
It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 1173 Views
Re: It is excellent Legolas - 09/11/2010 10:53:24 PM 1017 Views
Re: It is excellent Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:58:23 PM 1125 Views
Just remembered my favourite poem Stephen - 09/11/2010 10:50:03 PM 1110 Views
That is very nice *NM* Camilla - 09/11/2010 10:59:53 PM 527 Views
I'll answer this unnumbered survey. Tom - 10/11/2010 01:37:50 AM 1177 Views
Read: Poetry: Joel - 10/11/2010 12:08:42 PM 1108 Views
Re: Poetry: (beat.) - 10/11/2010 04:57:31 PM 1006 Views
Re: Nice Gaps - 11/11/2010 01:39:48 AM 1143 Views
Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. (beat.) - 11/11/2010 11:57:02 AM 1277 Views
Re: Man. . . That voice? Yeah. He should be reading me stories every night. Gaps - 12/11/2010 04:36:22 AM 2004 Views
I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* (beat.) - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 433 Views
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