I have decided to stop trying to draw direct lines to history, as it does not seem to fit right, and instead just enjoy how it plays with allusions and images to create an atmosphere. Even within the book I have some issues with chronology (I got the impression early on that the Asherite belief was several centuries old, and that it had come via the southern continent to Al-Rassan, but the desert people seemed to have been converted within a generation, so...).
The spreading of Islam was a little more complicated than history books generally have it. Yes, they arrived in Spain and rapidly subjugated it less than a hundred years after Muhammad's death in 632 (first arrival in 711, to be exact), but that does not mean all the desert tribes in Northern Africa had been converted, and there have indeed been a number of westward waves of Arabian tribes into Northern Africa, clashing with the local tribes and contributing to the spread of Islam and the Arabic language, some as late as the eleventh century iirc. In the case of the Almoravids, they were nominally Muslim, but in such an ignorant and clueless way that their learning more precisely what Islam was about must've been rather like a conversion, and that did indeed happen around the mid-eleventh century, which is when the main parts of the plot happened.
The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay: the November/December Book Club
- 18/11/2010 09:33:45 AM
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Prologue and Part One - the pieces are moved into place.
- 18/11/2010 09:37:08 AM
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I've read this before, more than once, but I can remember very little of what happens.
- 18/11/2010 12:58:44 PM
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Re: I've read this before, more than once, but I can remember very little of what happens.
- 20/12/2010 07:31:10 PM
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Part Two: Exile *NM*
- 18/11/2010 09:38:21 AM
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I still like it.
- 22/12/2010 09:27:09 AM
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Part Three
- 18/11/2010 09:40:26 AM
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Still no major objections
- 25/12/2010 04:07:43 PM
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Actually, that part more or less makes sense.
- 25/12/2010 10:58:28 PM
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Overall thoughts: did you like the book?
- 18/11/2010 09:41:54 AM
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The characters: Jehane, Ammar, Rodrigo
- 18/11/2010 09:45:51 AM
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A superficial point:
- 18/11/2010 08:33:58 PM
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Yes. Phèdre no Delaunay de Montrêve (as opposed to Racine's Phèdre).
- 18/11/2010 08:37:49 PM
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The technicalities: writing style, plotting, etc.
- 18/11/2010 09:48:48 AM
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He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
- 18/11/2010 09:02:13 PM
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Re: He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
- 21/11/2010 06:13:32 PM
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Re: He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
- 29/12/2010 03:40:31 PM
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Re: He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
- 29/12/2010 03:39:07 PM
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Because I was amusing myself with this during the read: on meanings of names and places
- 18/11/2010 03:38:39 PM
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I wish I had the time and brainpower to do that when reading books.
- 18/11/2010 07:48:30 PM
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Actually, I'm not sure if it really enhanced the reading experience.
- 18/11/2010 08:11:29 PM
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Hm.
- 18/11/2010 08:15:32 PM
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Supposedly it's based on Italy? But yeah, maybe that's only superficial.
- 18/11/2010 08:25:54 PM
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A note on your Tigana comment..
- 18/11/2010 08:24:24 PM
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I did not catch all of those. Certainly not the arabic name-references.
- 29/12/2010 11:53:46 PM
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Us and Them: how can we do this to each other?
- 21/11/2010 06:07:46 PM
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