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One certainly has to choose the real literature to present, certainly. Tom Send a noteboard - 07/06/2011 02:27:00 PM
I doubt that a 13-year-old will fully appreciate The Brothers Karamazov, but Crime and Punishment is certainly something they could enjoy. Tolstoy is very easy to enjoy at that age. I also think A Tale of Two Cities would serve as a good introduction to Dickens, and To Kill a Mockingbird certainly. Boys of that age tend to love The Catcher in the Rye. I think that dystopian novels are also good for that age group - Animal Farm, 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451 - and Stendhal is also a good choice. Twain tends to be a perennial favorite in that category (or really, in all honesty, almost any American author other than Melville). Kipling is also great for that age group.

I would, on the other hand, definitely stay away from Kundera, from Thomas Mann, from Joyce, from Voltaire, from Goethe, from most Dostoevsky, from Pasternak, from Bulgakov, from Hesse, from Kafka, from Cervantes, from the Brontes, from most poets and certainly from the historical plays by Shakespeare at a minimum.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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This WSJ article has kicked up a huge fuss on the internet - YA is "too dark". - 05/06/2011 03:46:50 PM 2154 Views
There's only one thing about this literature that disturbs me - 05/06/2011 05:39:35 PM 1125 Views
This is a thought out, finely articulated response. - 05/06/2011 06:47:13 PM 1140 Views
If it were just vampires that would be just fine - 05/06/2011 08:03:02 PM 909 Views
People have been complaining about this since the novel was invented - 05/06/2011 11:02:58 PM 980 Views
This is different. - 06/06/2011 01:56:56 AM 987 Views
Apparently the article did paint far too bleak a picture, - 06/06/2011 12:39:46 PM 1066 Views
Why waste time with "YA literature" at all? - 06/06/2011 02:14:03 PM 843 Views
Re: Why waste time with "YA literature" at all? - 06/06/2011 02:28:42 PM 798 Views
I think that's a post factum justification, not a reason. - 06/06/2011 05:08:09 PM 1011 Views
Maybe. It's hard to separate, I think. - 07/06/2011 01:06:29 PM 1032 Views
One certainly has to choose the real literature to present, certainly. - 07/06/2011 02:27:00 PM 1072 Views
Very good post. - 06/06/2011 08:52:22 PM 885 Views
You seem to be the only one who thinks so. *NM* - 07/06/2011 01:17:18 AM 317 Views
I don't think it's a bad post... I just think that the "despair" is a teen fad, and not as bad as - 07/06/2011 03:19:03 AM 1131 Views
Suicide rates have gone up significantly - 07/06/2011 02:42:55 PM 791 Views
Heh. - 08/06/2011 07:24:44 PM 1111 Views
you are having trouble finding cultural ideas that turned bad? - 08/06/2011 11:56:23 PM 1022 Views
The classic problem of the overprotective parent- underestimating your kids - 09/06/2011 05:33:54 AM 985 Views
The Diary of Anne Frank? Seriously? - 10/06/2011 08:13:47 PM 946 Views
I'm sure the percentage of good books must be higher than they make it sound, - 05/06/2011 05:53:21 PM 1165 Views
I'd say books offer a fundamentally different experience than movies - 05/06/2011 06:53:55 PM 1122 Views
I'm not sure that makes a difference here. - 06/06/2011 04:47:05 AM 1099 Views
Because thinking makes you LESS susceptible to these things you're afraid of - 06/06/2011 05:27:26 PM 1139 Views
I don't completely agree with that. - 06/06/2011 07:26:21 PM 1084 Views
I feel like I just can't relate to parents determined to shelter their kids from everything - 06/06/2011 10:21:44 PM 1060 Views
I don't think that is what this is. - 06/06/2011 10:41:06 PM 957 Views
I suppose I'm giving a lot of credit to the status of "reader" - 07/06/2011 03:08:48 AM 955 Views
Your response is about where I sit. - 06/06/2011 12:30:04 PM 958 Views
Nope, this is stupid - 05/06/2011 06:38:51 PM 955 Views
Parents have the right and resonsibility to know what their children are reading - 06/06/2011 03:41:22 AM 864 Views
Re: Parents have the right and resonsibility to know what their children are reading - 06/06/2011 12:40:24 PM 1019 Views
I'd argue if you're old enough to be interested in the subject matter, you're old enough to read it - 06/06/2011 05:32:33 PM 1130 Views
well so far you have failed to make the argument - 07/06/2011 04:22:00 AM 1056 Views
Depends on the subject matter. - 07/06/2011 01:07:57 PM 886 Views
Basically? Yes. - 07/06/2011 06:42:04 PM 1130 Views
why do think there is value in letting them read whatever they want? - 07/06/2011 06:52:20 PM 797 Views
Don't be an idiot. - 09/06/2011 05:25:26 AM 982 Views
I am being an idiot? - 09/06/2011 04:10:28 PM 965 Views
I wasn't calling you an idiot for disagreeing with me. - 09/06/2011 04:44:37 PM 1038 Views
Do we restrict access or alter parenting? - 06/06/2011 04:31:13 AM 1190 Views
Well, I wrote a long piece related to this - 06/06/2011 05:21:06 AM 1086 Views
She kind of conflates some issues that are quite different, if you ask me. - 06/06/2011 08:47:33 PM 1017 Views
A+++ would read this reply again *NM* - 06/06/2011 10:23:11 PM 329 Views
+1 *NM* - 07/06/2011 01:12:16 AM 320 Views
Wait wait wait wait wait... NYT reviewed Game of Thrones? I must read this - 07/06/2011 03:20:08 AM 884 Views
I think he's talking about the review of the tv show they did. - 07/06/2011 03:30:19 AM 823 Views
Indeed. Everything she said. *NM* - 07/06/2011 06:13:20 PM 296 Views
it does take a lot of work to keep track of your kids - 07/06/2011 05:02:55 AM 1043 Views
*I agree with this* *NM* - 07/06/2011 01:18:58 PM 404 Views

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