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Your perseverance is as impressive as always. Legolas Send a noteboard - 12/08/2013 09:57:58 PM

View original post1. Regionalism has always been an issue in Italy. Most people tend to think of Italy as a nation with a strong sense of identity and unity. To a certain extent, the mythology surrounding the Risorgimento has helped to further this idea, and the strong presence of Italian cultural groups outside Italy which gravitate to a single sense of Italian identity help to foster this sense of social cohesion. In reality, however, the dominant theme of the post-Roman Italy has been one of fragmentation and regionalism. The violence that accompanied the decline of Roman power saw the larger cities of Italy begin to fortify themselves against all potential enemies, from barbarian invaders to mutinying Roman armies. As the walls went up, the concerns of the inhabitants diminished to local ones. Although some invaders, such as the Lombards, were able to create the illusion of unity in their portion of Italy, after Charlemagne’s Franks destroyed their empire and seized their Iron Crown, Italians reverted to type, with communi and local lords resisting attempts by the Holy Roman Empire to exert control over what was, admittedly, a portion of the Empire cut off from the rest of Europe by the Alps. With the total collapse of Imperial power, the era of the city-states and the princes saw the development of a multitude of small countries, each with its own linguistic peculiarities and vendettas against traditional enemies. While these sometimes split along the old Guelph-Ghibelline lines, alliances shifted over time and finally became meaningless. Foreign domination helped to create a thin veneer of unity that ultimately grew into an Italian national consciousness, but following the collapse of both fascism and the monarchy, the sense of national unity began to unravel again, with North-South tensions increasing and varied political parties espousing separatist or regional notions, from Giannini’s L’uomo Qualunque movement immediately following World War II to the Lega of Umberto Bossi that plays a major role in Italian politics. While most regionalists aren’t as radical as the deluded youths who seized St. Mark’s Campanile in Venice in 1997 with the aim of re-establishing the Serenissima, complete with a Doge, many Italians still speak their local dialects and a considerable number support parties that seek greater regional autonomy.

It's true that there aren't really many linguistic minorities in the usual sense of the word in Italy - there's some Slovene, Provençal, Friulian, German and so on on the northern borders, and iirc Catalan in one town on Sardinia, but apart from that it's all just dialects of Italian. No religious splits, either. Now that you got me thinking about it, the Italian kind of regionalism and separatism is indeed quite special that way...
View original post3. The Germans have not been good to the Italians. Mussolini’s alliance with Hitler was an aberration in Italian politics for many reasons, but the strongest one was clearly that it went against every historical alliance that Italy ever had. It made about as much historical and cultural sense as a Chinese-Japanese alliance would. Italy’s first experience with the Germans were as invaders, as waves of Goths and Lombards overran Italy. The invasion was far from pleasant, as can be imagined. When the Pope begged for help from the Franks, feeling that a more distant German tribe might be less intrusive, it only created a pretext for Charlemagne to annex northern Italy into his own empire, which set off a series of wars with Germans similar to the Hundred Years’ War between England and France. The Italians rarely won the battles, but because the Germans didn’t have the resources to keep the Italians in check, the punishing expedition of a Frederick Barbarossa had little lasting impact on Italian attitudes. Although the Emperors eventually abandoned Italy, they still occasionally took part in expeditions to Italy as part of a greater European power game. Finally, the Austrian Habsburg Empire ended up conquering a significant portion of Italy, such that most of northern Italy was either under its direct control or, as principalities like those of Modena showed, under the despotic rule of local tyrants who could rely on Austrian troops to march in and quell any unrest. It was resentment of this policing of Italy that helped lead to the Risorgimento, which ended with Austria losing most of its claims in Italy (but not all). Italy fought Austria and Germany in World War I in order to recover the Alto Adige and other historically Italian regions from the Austrian Empire. After World War I, Mussolini proclaimed himself the protector of the rump state that remained of the Austrian Empire in what one can only assume was a bit of underhanded revenge, an attempt to show that now the master was the servant. His alliance with Hitler was thus, one might say, doomed to fail under the crushing weight of historical antagonisms. Indeed, the alliance only lasted a few years and ended with the Italians deposing Mussolini and attempting to surrender to the Allies, which of course led to more reasons for the Italians to hate the Germans in the reprisals that followed what can only be called a “Surrender, Italian Style” (more on that below).

I've recently been reading about Frederick II, aka "Stupor Mundi" (too good a nickname not to mention it), born and raised in the strongly Muslim-influenced Sicily, fluent in Arabic - and oh yes, also Holy Roman Emperor. Fascinating man, I need to read more about him. And about Matilda of Canossa. Neither of which are really relevant here except to note that it wasn't always one-way in German-Italian relations.
View original post4. The Risorgimento is largely a lie. The heroes of Italy’s political rebirth and reunification, from the military leader, Garibaldi, to the king of the house of Savoy, Vittorio Emanuele II, to the statesman, the able Conte di Cavour, to the idealists, like Mazzini, are household names in Italy. Of all of them, Cavour probably did the most and acted with the most competency, and does not receive enough recognition, whereas all the others receive too much recognition (especially Garibaldi). This is because much of the story of the Risorgimento is a lie. It was not a popular uprising – most Italians were illiterate, concerned with their regionalist prerogatives and didn’t care about unification. The movement was directed and implemented by a small section of society, perhaps 5% at most, who actually cared about the idea. The rest of the Italians had been beaten down by a Counter-Reformation that preferred to see them passive and ignorant, reinforced by foreign rulers that kept them occupied in the best Roman traditions of panes et circenses. Furthermore, it wasn’t won with hard-fought battles. Rather, it wasn’t won with hard-fought battles by Italians. The House of Savoy and its army lost most of the battles they fought. The carbonari secret societies were uncovered and their leaders executed. The few popular uprisings that occurred were easily crushed. The “quadrilateral” of Austrian fortresses was never broken. Instead, the House of Savoy chose its allies well, so that with each defeat it somehow ended up gaining land. Yes, Garibaldi did undertake a bold invasion of Sicily to help overthrow the corrupt and unpopular Bourbon kings of Naples, but he and his troops almost got killed by the Sicilians on several occasions because of the way they behaved to the local populations and power centers. It’s also worth remembering that Garibaldi tried, and failed, to take Rome. The King of Savoy (and later, Sardinia), Vittorio Emanuele II, was pushed on by his brilliant adviser and statesman, Cavour, to keep up the expansion of his realm, such that in 1861, a unified Kingdom of Italy was proclaimed. Almost immediately after it was proclaimed, Savoyards were complaining that money would be sucked into the South, the Southerners continued banditry and popular uprisings as a means of making money and other cities that were used to being seats of power saw their raison d’être vanish. Rather than seeing all of Italy link hands and sing “Va, Pensiero” together, the Italian experiment almost collapsed as soon as it started.

Not very surprising. I need to learn more about that whole thing - Eco's Cemetery of Prague is perhaps the most detailed thing I've read on the subject, sad to say.
View original post5. The Italian Army is an oxymoron. In the United States, there is a popular form of entertainment that consists of belittling the fighting abilities of the French. The roots of this sort of humor seem to lie more in an occasional mutual resentment between the two nations than in any serious assessment of previous military ability. If the Americans were to take a moment to review Italy’s military exploits, it becomes clear that everything said half in jest about the French can be said with total seriousness about the Italians. When the vaunted Roman legions disappeared from this world, they seem to have taken Italy’s military tradition with them. Although the Italians seem to have fought appreciably well in the Middle Ages, by the Renaissance the princes of the city-states were resorting to war on the condottiere system, which was fought by mercenaries, mostly foreign, in show battles that often had the goal of seeing as few people killed as possible, for as little real political gain as possible, in order to keep the whole system well-financed into the foreseeable future. These armies were singularly unsuited to stopping any real military force, as became obvious when states that had reached a level of national unity, such as France, Spain and Austria, invaded Italy. Once under foreign domination, the Italians were discouraged from exhibiting any martial skills above the level of the blood-feud or fencing duel, and it showed, as they largely submitted to foreign rule. At times, the Genoese asserted independence, as a minor incident blown out of all proportion showed (a boy named Balilla threw a stone at some Austrian cannon crews and it started a popular uprising that led to a temporary independence for the city; his name was later used ad nauseam by the Fascists as a symbol of Italian resistance). The Italians, as I noted, lost most of the battles they fought during the Risorgimento, and in World War I they entered the war woefully unprepared. The human cost was incredible, and the massive defeat of the Italian Army at Caporetto, though stopped at the Piave, showed how illusory any Italian fighting prowess was. There were exceptions, of course, in the arditi who wore black shirts and volunteered for dangerous assignments, and some groups of bersaglieri and alpini, largely drawn from the mountainous north of the country, showed real skill. However, this skill was not something that the majority of Italians shared, and even though Mussolini adopted many of the insignia of these elite units, from the black shirt to their song, “Giovinezza”, the Italian army under Fascism was only capable of defeating the Negus of Ethiopia or the Senussi of Libya, because in both cases Italy’s opponent had no modern arms or hard currency with which to buy them. As soon as Italy started a real war, it lost. Its invasion of Greece saw Italian forces pushed back into Albania and suffering horrible defeats with terrific loss of life, with total defeat only staved off by Hitler’s intervention in the Balkans. In North Africa, the Italians surrendered in the hundreds of thousands, and the Italian fleet was even bombed by its own air force by mistake in one of a series of ignominious defeats. The Italian Army couldn’t even surrender properly. On September 8, 1943, General Badoglio, the Royal Family and the other high ranking officials of the post-Mussolini government (Mussolini had been deposed in July but Italy didn’t change sides until September 8) fled to the South, leaving generals in Italy, southern France, Yugoslavia, Greece and the Greek Islands completely unaware of what was to be done. In most cases, the Italians were thrown into POW camps or worse, killed in mass executions, by their former allies. Many were killed by Yugoslav partisans. And, although Mussolini established a new Fascist government at Salò, the Germans never trusted the Italians enough to supply them with troops, nor did they trust the ability of the Italians to fight enough to bother.

You have to add, though, that much like the French in the Hundred Years War, the Italians sometimes got a surprising amount done even so - Venice and Genoa in particular. Not so much anymore in the days of the united Italian kingdom, admittedly, but the unification itself was a textbook illustration of that ability. Adowa however was truly sad. Not really sure yet who to believe on the achievements of the Italian armies in the First World War, but in the Second it was again quite sad, indeed.
View original post6. Even so, Mussolini wasn’t that bad. It is telling that both Gianfranco Fini and Silvio Berlusconi have said good things about Mussolini. Prior to 1938, most Italians had a uniformly positive impression of him. He only sent a few hundred enemies to jail, and even people who attempted to assassinate him were frequently pardoned, such that few people were executed in his state, which was as corrupt and venal as previous Italian regimes had been. As a result, while there was some occasional violence, most people were content with the social order. Fascism grew, not out of a “response to Marxism” as is frequently stated, but out of irredentism, the Italian desire to recover the portions of the historical Italy that remained under Austrian control as of the outbreak of World War I: The Trentino, Alto Adige, and the Dalmatian and Istrian coastline, including the cities of Pola, Fiume and Zara. Veterans in the arditi, who wore the black shirt and sang “Giovinezza”, were driven by a nationalist desire to see the unification of Italy completed. Italy had entered World War I in order to recover these territories, and England and France had promised them to Italy to entice it to enter the war. At the end of the war, Woodrow Wilson, in his sanctimonious priggishness, refused to honor this promise, favoring the Yugoslavs. The veterans who returned home, then, had seen an unprecedented level of blood shed for the unification of Italy. They had actually won the war, despite Italy’s military tradition. Even so, the territories they had been promised were robbed from them at the last moment. When they came home, they formed fasci di combattimento and declared themselves ready to liberate Fiume in particular, such that Fiume eventually ended up in Italian hands. Moreover, they were angry with the largely socialist factory workers who had all the good-paying jobs. The factory workers had been exempted from the draft because they were needed for war industries, but to the veterans they were imboscati, draft dodgers (the word literally refers to hiding in the forest to avoid conscription). It should be noted that almost all of these workers were socialist in the anarchist and syndicalist traditions, with almost no Marxists. The natural violence that broke out everywhere in Italy as a result of these social tensions was not something that Mussolini started, but rather, something he manipulated in order to come to power. Once in power, he disbanded these groups and created a personal dictatorship that reduced Fascism to little more than window dressing. He had no cohesive strategy or plan, and he was mostly a posturing buffoon. Until he threw his lot in with Hitler, largely because he was afraid Hitler would become master of Europe no matter what Mussolini did, Italy was just another conservative, Catholic nation that had a corrupt authoritarian government. The inability of the Italians to conduct a war was matched only by their distaste for it in the first place. Had he not made the decision to stand with Hitler, Mussolini would likely have led Italy in much the same way Franco led Spain. Even taking into account his terrible miscalculation, his regime was both too incompetent and too unwilling to engage in any real atrocities.

Not as bad as Hitler, to be sure, but then that's not saying much. Perhaps not as bad as Franco, either, but that too is damning with faint praise to say the least (despite Cannoli's deranged associations beween Franco and El Cid...). And in his defense, the Italian troops in the Spanish Civil War (I realize the relevance is once again limited, but it's the most recent history I've read involving Mussolini) seem to have been far more humane than either the Nazi troops or Franco's scum.
View original post7. The Left was always more dangerous than the Right. Much of postwar Italy saw a complete and total unwillingness to act decisively against Leftist extremists, such as the Red Brigades, even though they kidnapped and murdered a Prime Minister of Italy, Aldo Moro. Syndicalist strikes were allowed to paralyze the country, intellectuals spoke openly about overthrowing the state, and even notables such as Umberto Eco signed a manifesto that professed to support the Italian student actions against their professors, inspired by the French student protests but going much farther to justify violence as part of a necessary “class struggle”. When the Red Brigades acted, planting bombs and shooting politicians, the knee-jerk reaction was to blame Fascist groups, usually poorly described and without any real form. When the Left marched and threw Molotov cocktails, they denounced the police who tried to keep order as part of the “Fascist plots”. A CIA-sponsored plan approved by NATO that was to hide weapons caches in Northeastern Italy to allow for partisan warfare against a Soviet invasion was denounced, after its existence was discovered, as just a Rightist plot to set up a coup and crush “democracy”. The press seemed one-sided and Italy was spiraling out of control. It was only after the Red Brigades blatantly refuted the Fascist explanations for many of their own terrorist deeds that the pendulum began to swing and people began to see how damaging and destabilizing the extremist Left really was. It wasn’t until the mid-1980s that the Italian state began to calm down. Even then, Italy continued to be rocked by violence, this time at the hands of Middle Eastern terrorists, mostly affiliated with the PLO, who disregarded Italy’s Leftists foreign policy stance. Indeed, the Italian Communist Party (PCI), which was led by Palmiro Togliatti in its heyday, sought to draw a parallel between US naval bases in the Mediterranean and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The sense of moral equivalency remains to this day, and this unrepentant, unreformed Left, with its anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism and utopian considerations, continues to threaten the economic and social stability of Italy in a way that Mussolini and the right never could. This vocal and militant Left is probably partially the reason that Fini and Berlusconi have praised Mussolini.

I really don't know the details on the Moro case, but I trust you're aware that it's not as clear-cut as you make it out to be. And Bologna was, at least off the top of my head, the deadliest terrorist attack in Europe until Atocha, so you may want to be a bit more cautious in defending the Right. And while it will no doubt take a long time before we have all the details, Gladio has been linked to paramilitary and terrorist activity in other countries besides Italy (such as my own, notably).

That said, it's certainly true that the Italian left has a lot of extreme elements that push sensible centrist Italians into the arms of the likes of Berlusconi in spite of everything. Fini unfortunately hasn't had much success with his own party, but we'll have to wait and see what happens now that it's beginning to look like Berlusconi's career might finally, finally be over.

View original post I found myself liking Berlusconi despite (or perhaps, perversely, precisely because of) everything that’s been written about him and everything he’s been accused of. It’s fitting that he was finally convicted, without appeal, for the first time, despite having over 30 lawsuits initiated against him, the same week that I finished this 22-book monster series on Italy’s history. I expect that he will find a way to minimize the impact of the verdict; in fact, I expect no less of him. He is a quintessential Italian, in the best traditions of the history of his country. As they say, lasciatemi cantare...

I'm no stranger to contrariness, playing advocate of the devil and liking people or things better when most other people feel the opposite way, but I can't say I have much understanding for feeling that way about Berlusconi. It seems to me the only way you can like the man or be amused by him, is if you're so cynical about Italy that you feel the corruption and dirty intrigue and everything else that stands between Italy and a properly functioning modern state, is somehow a good thing, just because they have such a long tradition in it.

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