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Well, he's at least part of the wave that humanized fantasy. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 05/12/2009 08:36:29 PM
Bringing down fantasy from epic scope to a character-based level doesn't really start happening until the time of Cook, if not Cook himself. There are still really strong ties between his work and present works. As you pointed out, Erikson is Black Company 2.0.
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Six best fantasy novels? Larry - 04/12/2009 05:54:54 AM 1658 Views
Best fantasy authors Tavi - 04/12/2009 07:01:48 AM 1356 Views
Have you read Robin Hobb? *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:01:23 PM 665 Views
I have, and wasn't really impressed Tavi - 04/12/2009 10:08:25 PM 1169 Views
You definitely read the wrong stuff first Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:12:07 AM 1272 Views
Agreed. unr3stricted - 09/12/2009 09:55:12 PM 1169 Views
Only read two. Book of the New Sun definitely deserves that spot. Mieville, not so much. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:06:45 AM 1342 Views
Interesting. Werthead - 04/12/2009 05:21:04 PM 1209 Views
Why Mieville, if I may ask? *NM* Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 08:33:43 PM 684 Views
I didn't mean that to be a reply to you, but still Werthead - 05/12/2009 03:15:36 AM 1323 Views
No worries. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:52:11 AM 1228 Views
But the list was for favorite books, not favorite or most important authors A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:25:13 AM 1163 Views
It was for "best" books. I realize that has a lot of meanings, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:37:01 PM 526 Views
Hm... good point A Deathwatch Guard - 06/12/2009 02:19:13 AM 955 Views
Glen Cook is radically overrated. Werthead - 05/12/2009 04:09:07 PM 1316 Views
Well, he's at least part of the wave that humanized fantasy. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 08:36:29 PM 1050 Views
In the US, yes. Elsewhere, no, because they didn't know about him. Werthead - 06/12/2009 04:36:31 PM 1198 Views
Interesting. Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:15:37 AM 1130 Views
Two years? It was published in 2000... *NM* Legolas - 05/12/2009 09:03:33 PM 436 Views
Nine years is like two. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:25:49 AM 613 Views
I've yet to read a Gene Wolfe. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:26:54 AM 1101 Views
Yes, yes, yes. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 02:35:45 AM 1043 Views
You know I directly added almost all of those Wolfe quotes there, right? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:26:40 AM 1174 Views
I just find Mieville's prose exceptionally standard. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 07:25:05 AM 1166 Views
Isn't that almost a contradiction of terms there? Larry - 06/12/2009 07:45:47 AM 1102 Views
It's remarkable for its normalcy because so many people praise it? Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 09:11:18 AM 1056 Views
Who the heck are these people? *NM* ironclad - 04/12/2009 12:46:48 PM 662 Views
I've never heard of any of them either.... *NM* Fantasy - 05/12/2009 02:58:11 AM 867 Views
Literati Larry - 06/12/2009 05:27:28 AM 1024 Views
Yeah you're so much better than us *NM* ironclad - 06/12/2009 12:00:27 PM 598 Views
Well, you can hardly expect a group to go around calling themselves "elitist snobs." *NM* Ghavrel - 07/12/2009 02:16:16 AM 572 Views
Is he trying to be cool by listing stuff that 90% of fantasy readers have never heard of? Deadsy - 04/12/2009 04:05:46 PM 1098 Views
Actually, several of those books have been bestsellers and/or won several genre awards Larry - 06/12/2009 05:28:18 AM 1110 Views
I'm very ambivalent about A Wizard of Earthsea AgentOrange - 04/12/2009 05:18:00 PM 1114 Views
Possibly has to do with the times in which it was written/read Larry - 06/12/2009 05:29:27 AM 1071 Views
My Best Six best fantasy novels Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:44:12 PM 850 Views
Re: My Best Six best fantasy novels *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:45:25 PM 495 Views
oops! *NM* Nolan - 04/12/2009 07:46:34 PM 549 Views
Re: Six best fantasy novels? Aeryn - 04/12/2009 09:06:18 PM 1217 Views
I really need to get around to reading Mists of Avalon. Ghavrel - 04/12/2009 09:50:54 PM 1000 Views
Calenture Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:44:14 AM 967 Views
That... sounds so cool. I'm going to check it out as soon as I get home. Ghavrel - 05/12/2009 03:53:55 AM 1079 Views
Ooh, I need to get my hands on Calenture. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:27:34 AM 587 Views
And ha! I thought it might be you. *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:29:13 AM 553 Views
I'll eventually get to those in the near future Larry - 06/12/2009 05:31:29 AM 1099 Views
I don't read or buy books anymore. Aeryn - 06/12/2009 11:45:33 PM 1099 Views
I understand that Larry - 07/12/2009 12:55:46 AM 1150 Views
Okay, I'll give it a shot Tom - 04/12/2009 10:12:47 PM 1182 Views
You might more mythopoeic material in your fantasies, don't you? *NM* Larry - 04/12/2009 11:22:33 PM 618 Views
Mythopoeic? Who...me? Tom - 05/12/2009 02:19:03 AM 988 Views
Yes, you Larry - 05/12/2009 03:51:25 AM 1122 Views
The Blogger Seems to Agree With You. The Name With No Man - 05/12/2009 10:10:07 PM 1129 Views
Book of the New Sun is very early 80's and is almost inarguably a classic of the genre. Ghavrel - 06/12/2009 12:26:55 AM 1148 Views
Never Read It, But All Accounts Support That View. The Name With No Man - 06/12/2009 02:44:17 PM 1273 Views
Bending the terms a bit... Larry - 04/12/2009 11:21:33 PM 1226 Views
n/a *NM* Aeryn - 05/12/2009 12:46:45 AM 519 Views
I like Grossman's list a lot more than Henry's. *NM* Legolas - 04/12/2009 11:41:36 PM 560 Views
Here are mine, but I probably haven't really read enough fantasy to have a top 5 Deadsy - 05/12/2009 12:16:13 AM 1010 Views
Have you tried any standalones recently? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:33:41 AM 1088 Views
I always end up wanting more Deadsy - 06/12/2009 05:53:11 AM 1081 Views
What if there were 50 more standalones that you could read that likely would be quite good? Larry - 06/12/2009 06:12:53 AM 1167 Views
The only one on his list I would think about agreeing with is Meiville. MightyYT - 05/12/2009 03:11:25 AM 1113 Views
Have you tried Mark Danielewski's House of Leaves yet? Larry - 06/12/2009 05:34:48 AM 1024 Views
No list is complete without Goodkind *NM* Choss Hauler - 05/12/2009 07:59:22 AM 630 Views
Sorry, I can't help it- no *porn* list is complete without Goodkind... *NM* rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:21:22 AM 476 Views
For me....: A Deathwatch Guard - 05/12/2009 10:36:42 AM 1168 Views
He certainly has a specific kind of taste. rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:20:30 AM 1022 Views
Pfft! Larry - 06/12/2009 06:54:24 AM 932 Views
Who are you asking?? rebelaessedai - 07/12/2009 08:09:25 PM 1044 Views
Might give this a go myself... rebelaessedai - 06/12/2009 02:24:52 AM 1077 Views
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