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Re: Before responding to others, I'll post my own responses Camilla Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 10:34:10 PM
Coincidentally, I decided to order Mein Kampf AND Das Kapital, both in Gebundene Ausgabe - es freut mich.

1. Are there any books that should ever be censored? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are censored and for whom?

I am categorically against the censorship of any information outside strictly military settings where dissemination of information could undermine the ability of our armed forces to succeed in combat (which, of course, means I am 100% for the dissemination of enemy information in the same circumstances).

2. Should any books be withheld from libraries in high schools? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are withheld?

I think that high school libraries should be open to all ideas, no matter how odious, provided that the ideas are of proven historical, cultural or philosophical merit. I don't think that this would entail providing free pornography (not that I have a problem with it - high schoolers have access to it anyway) or bomb-making works such as the infamous Anarchist's Cookbook, but that's about all I would keep out of high school libraries.

3. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think have had a massive impact on the world, and at least one that is frequently overlooked on lists of that sort.

Plato's Republic
Marx's Das Kapital
Hitler's Mein Kampf
Macchiavelli's Prince
Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations

Frequently overlooked: Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics
4. Do you think any of the books you listed in point 3 should be read in schools as mandatory reading? Why or why not?

I read Plato, Macchiavelli and Aristotle. I don't think the others really should be read. In fact, I think it's interesting that the majority of these "important" books are never widely read and were never widely read. While Marx's Communist Manifesto is widely read, it's really Das Kapital that has the meat of his arguments. Das Kapital is a damn dense work, though, and hardly anyone ever really reads it (though a lot of people may SAY they've read it).

5. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think SHOULD be mandatory reading in schools (or at least "on the curriculum" if you don't like the word "mandatory"), and why.

Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov - Perhaps one of the best books ever written, it addresses issues of religion (especially theodicy), its role in society, social change and the evils of socialism.
Plato - The Republic - it is difficult to overestimate the contribution that Greek thought made to Western thought, and hence, modern thought generally.
Orwell - 1984 - schools generally take the easy way out with Orwell and read Animal Farm, which is a parable of Soviet history and not as general an indictment of totalitarianism as 1984 is. By reading the more serious book, students get a better sense of the message of Orwell.
Marx - The Communist Manifesto - It would be evil to force any longer readings of Marx, but historically and philosophically Marx has had a major impact on the world; it is interesting to count how many of his points have been implemented even in free market societies like our own.
Bradbury - Fahrenheit 451 - I know, it's odd, it's verging on being very light fiction and it's not necessarily the best book I've read. However, I think the very issue of censorship is something that high school students should be discussing and Bradbury's book is a perfect frame for that discussion.

6. Do you think schools are too careful in choosing books due to pressure from those who would censor the curriculum? If so, which sorts of books do you feel are unjustly censored?

Yes. Far too many parts of the United States are influenced by Christian fundamentalists. While I can understand that they may want to keep "dangerous" books from "impressionable" minds, when students reach high school it's time to expose them to other ways of thought. If Christian fundamentalism is the strong faith they claim it is, they have nothing to fear.

7. Do you think schools place too much emphasis on particular themes or ideas when choosing their curriculum? If so, which ones?

Yes. I think the US beats the racism issue like a dead horse. While one or two books makes sense, it shouldn't dominate the discourse in literature classes.

8. Are there any authors you would remove from school curricula who are presently well-represented? Why?

Because they suck: the Brontes, Melville, and Hemingway. I also would probably remove Huckleberry Finn because I don't think it's all that deep as far as literature goes.

9. Are there any authors not represented that you would like to see added generally? Why?

French and Russian authors are generally underrepresented in American schools and I think that should be changed.

10. Is there ONE book (aside from religious works) that you think EVERYONE should read? If so, what book and why?

Without really wanting to FORCE everyone to read it, Dostoevsky's Brothers Karamazov is a remarkable book that I always recommend.


It is an excellent book. And one of the very few Dostoyevsky books that do not end up annoying me at the end. I think that and The Double are his most interesting.
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