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More or less agree Cannoli Send a noteboard - 21/04/2010 05:20:43 PM
Somehow I don't feel entirely comfortable with it, for said human rights reasons. Of course, having a child molested makes me even a lot more uncomfortable, so maybe it's a lesser of two evils situation?
Mr Tusk's refusal "to call such individuals – such creatures – human beings" doesn't sound too good either. It's a little more complicated than that and reminds me of calling Hitler a monster, instead of looking at what humans are capable of doing. As hard as it is, people have to stop thinking about such situations from the vigilante point of view of parents, keep a sober and clear head and think it through.

It's mostly this, that sounds a bit off:
"Supporters are reminding those against the move that the effects of chemical castration are not permanent, nor are they a guarantee that a paedophile will not re-offend."
What's the point then? It may lower the risk, okay, but doesn't eliminate it. If this law gets through, one will have to see how it goes in the next few years. Maybe it checks out successfully.

This is the first time I read about the British model, where offenders have to agree to get treated. That I can get behind entirely.


The only permanent punishment should be death. I don't see what is wrong with such a penalty for pedophiles, but either move your bowels, or get off the toilet bowl. Mutilating anyone should not, under any circumstances, be an acceptable punishment. As for the chemical castration, it is the same principle. If this treatment is not permanent, what is the point, even if you stipulate the acceptability of castration? And beyond that, doesn't an awful lot of child sexual abuse consist of more than sticking a penis in the kid? That is the only act castration would prevent. I can't imagine the sort of sick freak who goes for kids in defiance of all taboos and laws is going to lay off because he can't get it up. It would seem to invite such people to channel their urges into other outlets (torture, etc), none of which would be notably healthier for their victims.

All in all, it is the parents' responsibility to protect children from stuff like this, and whenever I hear of some sort of Concerned Parents group or individual whose sole reason for speaking on the subject is his parenthood, endorse such punishments, I get the impression of people who want to be able to slack off on their own responsibilities.
Cannoli
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Castration of paedophiles - 21/04/2010 11:44:03 AM 1027 Views
Hmm - 21/04/2010 12:04:45 PM 560 Views
I agree. *NM* - 21/04/2010 12:15:41 PM 207 Views
good reply. *NM* - 21/04/2010 12:41:42 PM 233 Views
Yeah, you covered it well. - 21/04/2010 02:44:53 PM 665 Views
More or less agree - 21/04/2010 05:20:43 PM 634 Views
Calling it "castration" makes it sound a million times worse than it actually is. - 21/04/2010 12:44:30 PM 620 Views
Language is critical. - 21/04/2010 02:52:03 PM 487 Views
One quick response: Alan Turing - 21/04/2010 03:43:33 PM 650 Views
Are they really using the same chemicals as in 1952? - 21/04/2010 04:40:30 PM 553 Views
It was a quick response - 22/04/2010 02:21:06 AM 540 Views
Easily. - 22/04/2010 08:43:21 AM 535 Views
Possibly caused it - 22/04/2010 10:15:23 AM 509 Views
Yeah... no. *NM* - 21/04/2010 04:06:57 PM 233 Views
Why are you against this? *NM* - 21/04/2010 06:54:20 PM 211 Views
First, because I don't knee-jerk to BURN IN HELL FOREVERRRRR whenever I see "pedophile" - 21/04/2010 07:28:34 PM 550 Views
Well said - 21/04/2010 07:43:09 PM 493 Views
I agree. - 21/04/2010 10:12:18 PM 561 Views
It really boils down to what kind of society you want to live in - 21/04/2010 04:59:38 PM 548 Views
Perhaps this would be a better solution: - 21/04/2010 06:55:52 PM 695 Views
I like it. *NM* - 21/04/2010 08:15:17 PM 213 Views
Although I'm not a psychologist - 21/04/2010 11:29:04 PM 514 Views
I think it's more complicated than just that - 21/04/2010 11:46:14 PM 494 Views
Sounds familiar... - 21/04/2010 11:52:43 PM 519 Views
even if someone did physically castrate a pedophile - 22/04/2010 01:07:15 AM 501 Views
This post proves the truth of what I said above. - 22/04/2010 01:58:06 PM 567 Views
I have a very hard time being unbiased on this subject. - 22/04/2010 01:11:31 AM 568 Views
it would probably only help those who are truly pedophiles. - 22/04/2010 01:30:53 AM 494 Views
No...just kill them *NM* - 22/04/2010 04:44:47 AM 219 Views
I'm with you Mook. - 22/04/2010 05:08:46 AM 556 Views
Well, that's kind of the point, right? - 22/04/2010 06:50:11 AM 554 Views
I agree *NM* - 22/04/2010 12:56:32 PM 265 Views
I also agree. - 22/04/2010 01:15:50 PM 511 Views
It will keep them from hurting more children *NM* - 22/04/2010 01:53:23 PM 193 Views
there are many ways to accomplish that. - 22/04/2010 03:10:02 PM 595 Views
you can make any argument sound absurd if that is goal - 22/04/2010 05:07:56 PM 523 Views
You misunderstood my logic. - 22/04/2010 05:11:30 PM 559 Views
It is just theory to you. - 28/04/2010 04:55:51 PM 551 Views
And theory is what the law should be about *NM* - 28/04/2010 05:04:40 PM 225 Views
I don't care if the kill them or lock them away forever - 28/04/2010 05:51:24 PM 550 Views
This idea I like even better. *NM* - 22/04/2010 07:57:13 AM 214 Views
This is my initial reaction too. - 22/04/2010 07:20:07 PM 533 Views
Shooting them would probably be a better idea. *NM* - 22/04/2010 02:46:28 PM 222 Views

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