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Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. dart_board Send a noteboard - 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM
As I've said before, I'm not against the law itself, merely how I know it will be executed, as well as the increased costs that result from it. Depending on the wording of the phone survey (which they don't seem to include anywhere), I could have been lumped in with the idiots who think nothing but good will come of this.

My only point was that the "will of the people in Arizona" does not speak with one voice and there are plenty of us who are against this law in one way or another.


I'm pretty sure that the people who have their property trashed by all the illeagals have already had their civil rights violated, forgot and thrown out. Indeed, the people that are killed and kidnapped on the border had their civil rights violated. No one wants to talk about them. Lets all debate about how some illegal might have their civil right violated, if that's even possible, and blame the victims. Yeah, lets make the people killed out to be the bad guys. After all, they should have offered to have a street paved through their home to cater to never ending string of illegals. Maybe they wouldn't have been shot in the head in the night if they had done that instead of asking for help. I doubt it though.
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The Arizona immigration bill thingy BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 12:57:20 AM 2359 Views
what do you expect from one of the last states to accept MLK day? Aisha - 26/04/2010 01:19:03 AM 1414 Views
Yes, well, at least you are in the 27% of Americans that have a Passport. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 01:48:44 AM 1212 Views
Such a wrongheaded law. LiterateDog - 26/04/2010 02:25:10 AM 1104 Views
A lot of stuff makes me go "whuh?" legally. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 03:38:12 AM 978 Views
Sounds like apartheid in SA... Napoleon62 - 26/04/2010 02:36:52 AM 1152 Views
As bad as the law is, that's an ignorant statement. *NM* LiterateDog - 26/04/2010 02:38:16 AM 550 Views
Re: Sounds like apartheid in SA... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:13:17 AM 1252 Views
It shows that Arizona is already lost Roland00 - 26/04/2010 03:09:24 AM 1142 Views
It will only take a few times getting their asses sued off for detaining U.S. citizens against... everynametaken - 26/04/2010 05:54:49 AM 1185 Views
Yeah, I can't wait 'til a Latino state representative is arrested for looking illegal. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 07:26:13 AM 1133 Views
or even better, a celebrity. I choose Antonia Banderas (when he has the funky beard hobo look) *NM* Aisha - 26/04/2010 12:32:18 PM 598 Views
Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border Dark Knight - 26/04/2010 06:19:24 AM 1094 Views
Oh please! The immigration and drug problems don't justify bad legislation. everynametaken - 26/04/2010 07:02:54 AM 1098 Views
I do. Brian - 26/04/2010 07:11:10 AM 1280 Views
Re: I do. everynametaken - 26/04/2010 07:45:21 AM 1103 Views
Yeah, I saw an interview with a former U.S. Drug Czar Brian - 26/04/2010 06:35:10 PM 1094 Views
Okay, I grew up in Arizona. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 12:41:21 PM 1336 Views
Re: Looks like no one knows how bad it is along the border BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:58:37 PM 1160 Views
looks like somebody doesn't quite get the point moondog - 29/04/2010 06:18:58 AM 1757 Views
Some thoughts Amys - 26/04/2010 06:42:02 AM 1237 Views
I wouldn't worry to much laws like that random thoughts - 26/04/2010 03:03:16 PM 1082 Views
patriot act gives that to any federal law enforcement officer moondog - 29/04/2010 06:13:38 AM 1203 Views
Re: Some thoughts BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 04:04:55 PM 1066 Views
It's not just outrageous; it's plain stupid. The latter is almost as offensive as the former. Ghavrel - 26/04/2010 07:30:30 AM 1105 Views
Sounds more like a bill to convince people they are doing something than to do something snoopcester - 26/04/2010 12:43:19 PM 1075 Views
What I find interesting about all this... Legolas - 26/04/2010 01:06:08 PM 1184 Views
well you see, that IS part of the problem LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 01:13:19 PM 1175 Views
It is interesting to see how it contrasts with your take on it, being from a country with them snoopcester - 26/04/2010 02:11:18 PM 1153 Views
Re: What I find interesting about all this... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:52:09 PM 1151 Views
Perhaps I'm wrong, but... Elaine - 26/04/2010 01:49:13 PM 1070 Views
I don't know about the green cards LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 03:05:49 PM 1105 Views
That last point doesn't really make any sense. Legolas - 26/04/2010 03:20:19 PM 1102 Views
my point was that the punishments for the similar crimes are so different. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 04:23:08 PM 1044 Views
Hey, I think it's an appalling law. Elaine - 27/04/2010 02:24:30 PM 1182 Views
Re: Perhaps I'm wrong, but... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:41:47 PM 1034 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass random thoughts - 26/04/2010 02:59:11 PM 1152 Views
The law will most likely not be overturned. LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 03:13:24 PM 1096 Views
I meant by the courts random thoughts - 27/04/2010 03:49:11 PM 993 Views
ah well. that'd be nice, then. *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 05:14:31 PM 502 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* Aisha - 26/04/2010 03:20:45 PM 581 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* beckstcw - 26/04/2010 06:53:32 PM 489 Views
The law will be overturned but it may help to get the federal government off their collective ass *NM* everynametaken - 26/04/2010 08:33:04 PM 528 Views
The federal government will be collective ass but it may help to get the law off their overturned *NM* beckstcw - 27/04/2010 05:33:42 AM 517 Views
Their collective ass will be overturned but it may help to get the law off the federal government *NM* BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 09:18:02 AM 491 Views
It's interesting how this sort of mirrors the Belgian issues. Legolas - 26/04/2010 03:34:59 PM 1065 Views
the "overrunning" of culture and language is exaggerated, imo LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 04:34:56 PM 1092 Views
I think the primary problem - in both cases - is language, yes. Legolas - 26/04/2010 04:54:55 PM 1119 Views
*shrug* I don't know. I just think that people are way too uptight about the issue LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 05:02:30 PM 1047 Views
I agree with you Brian - 26/04/2010 05:26:47 PM 1060 Views
that is also true LadyLorraine - 26/04/2010 05:44:40 PM 1012 Views
There is a difference between assimilating and being assimilated random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:09:19 PM 1073 Views
the differences really are not that minor random thoughts - 28/04/2010 06:49:33 PM 1145 Views
hmm, see LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 07:10:42 PM 986 Views
I am from San Antonio I have always been able to buy burritos from my neighbors random thoughts - 28/04/2010 08:28:45 PM 1012 Views
mmmm Tamale. LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 08:53:13 PM 1049 Views
When I say relatively minor, it's because I'm thinking of those *other* assimilation problems here Legolas - 28/04/2010 10:30:04 PM 1303 Views
It should rattle anyone who lives in a democracy and who likes their way of life random thoughts - 28/04/2010 11:15:18 PM 1163 Views
a minor point.... moondog - 29/04/2010 06:30:22 AM 1110 Views
More power to the government! and We took that land fair and square! *NM* heartbreak - 26/04/2010 04:43:15 PM 475 Views
I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute Isaac - 26/04/2010 09:05:21 PM 1298 Views
Re: I'm going to take a common sense approach on this for a minute BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 11:48:14 PM 1438 Views
you are correct moondog - 29/04/2010 06:39:29 AM 1469 Views
Uhm, how is that "worst" case scenario? LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:28:28 PM 1073 Views
Worst reasonable case scenario Isaac - 28/04/2010 06:48:29 PM 1041 Views
Will the will of the people of Arizona be respected? dart_board - 27/04/2010 12:12:46 AM 1208 Views
That's funny... LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:57:14 AM 1420 Views
echo chamber much? random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:14:53 PM 1153 Views
there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 05:19:29 PM 1014 Views
Re: there's also 53% of us who think this will lead to violating civil rights. dart_board - 28/04/2010 12:40:42 PM 1087 Views
Those incidents are horrible LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 01:07:39 PM 1042 Views
Re: That's funny... dart_board - 28/04/2010 12:30:41 PM 1090 Views
And this law will not give them what they want LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 01:12:50 PM 1121 Views
Also, the potential economic consequences of the law could be severe for Arizona. Libby - 27/04/2010 01:03:54 AM 1116 Views
now that's just crazy talk. LadyLorraine - 27/04/2010 01:58:42 AM 1042 Views
activist group liberal group claims it will cost money, what a shocker *NM* random thoughts - 27/04/2010 04:23:11 PM 466 Views
It will cost money Libby - 27/04/2010 09:16:31 PM 1077 Views
but all of that ignores the long term savings random thoughts - 28/04/2010 03:24:50 PM 1027 Views
it's less a matter of american tourism LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 04:06:50 PM 1078 Views
if they law is enforced it will decrease the number of illegals who go to Arizona random thoughts - 28/04/2010 06:35:26 PM 1129 Views
I will admit LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 07:01:55 PM 1051 Views
there have always been bad cops and there always will be random thoughts - 28/04/2010 08:53:50 PM 1019 Views
I don't see any real long term savings coming from this. Libby - 28/04/2010 10:17:26 PM 1146 Views
70% of the people in Arizona support the new law and 30% of the state is Hispanic random thoughts - 28/04/2010 10:51:08 PM 1275 Views
real science? LadyLorraine - 28/04/2010 11:06:13 PM 1065 Views
I linked to it further up the thread and you responded random thoughts - 28/04/2010 11:19:51 PM 1062 Views
ah, I think I missed it for some reason LadyLorraine - 29/04/2010 12:18:13 AM 1115 Views
who has time to read all of this crap *NM* random thoughts - 29/04/2010 04:26:11 AM 460 Views
I'm familiar with the Rasmussen poll Libby - 28/04/2010 11:31:30 PM 1374 Views
Here's Judge Napolitano's response to this AgentOrange - 27/04/2010 02:19:49 PM 1063 Views
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