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Re: I didn't mean from that point of view. p hart Send a noteboard - 07/05/2010 03:18:57 PM
I meant from making a coalition with a Labour government that their (Lib Dems) voters clearly no longer want. Looking at the swings, they were either from Labour to Lib Dem or Lib Dem to Con (and vice versa for the latter).

It will be fascinating to see what happens next.


Maybe i suspect if they did get PR, any losses owed to folk deserting them for this action would easily be (in my opinion) countered by the amount of seats they'd get under the PR system. I also think PR wouldn't alienate their core vore, it's one their core ideals.

I however agree 100% with your last sentence.
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Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. Nebhead - 07/05/2010 09:29:03 AM 1676 Views
Re: Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. Liam - 07/05/2010 09:45:23 AM 1130 Views
So what would you move to? Roland00 - 07/05/2010 09:53:51 AM 963 Views
I imagine if the UK changes it will move to Proportional Representation Mark - 07/05/2010 10:04:38 AM 1058 Views
Re: So what would you move to? p hart - 07/05/2010 02:55:32 PM 1061 Views
God I hate the British system Camilla - 07/05/2010 10:24:35 AM 1095 Views
It's an excellent morning. Conservatives are at 301 right now. *NM* Tom - 07/05/2010 01:57:52 PM 567 Views
Are you counting the Speaker? *NM* Camilla - 07/05/2010 01:59:37 PM 609 Views
Indeed snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:22:37 PM 1119 Views
I love how they're calling that option "The Coalition of the Losers". Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:27:56 PM 1037 Views
They are? Where? snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:38:01 PM 1169 Views
On the lovely BBC. Paxman, Robinson, Dimbleby et al. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:52:01 PM 1055 Views
Ah, we have it on but with the sound turned down - the subtitlers must be skipping that phrase snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:13:57 PM 999 Views
The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results. Legolas - 07/05/2010 03:45:58 PM 1047 Views
Re: The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:52:19 PM 1078 Views
That is true snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:53:51 PM 1056 Views
Re: That is true p hart - 07/05/2010 03:54:51 PM 1079 Views
I'm sure it would be a setup for new elections in a few months if they did. *NM* Tom - 07/05/2010 02:40:49 PM 567 Views
I suspect we'll get one of those anyway. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:52:32 PM 1031 Views
What is the general consensus on who would win or lose from new elections? Tom - 07/05/2010 02:57:04 PM 1186 Views
I've not heard any comment on this yet. I might have missed some. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:58:00 PM 1062 Views
Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:21:23 PM 1188 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though p hart - 07/05/2010 03:29:37 PM 1165 Views
King William IV indeed. Liam - 07/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 1137 Views
Re: King William IV indeed. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:40:41 PM 983 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:04:03 PM 1082 Views
I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:09:51 PM 1077 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn p hart - 07/05/2010 04:24:56 PM 956 Views
Yes. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:26:50 PM 830 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:28:45 PM 1030 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn p hart - 07/05/2010 04:34:41 PM 1004 Views
I'm sure he is snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:25:20 PM 1079 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:27:44 PM 1127 Views
Re: Heh. snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:43:18 PM 1120 Views
His talking about "Portillo moments" was one of the best parts of the BBC's election broadcast. *NM* Legolas - 07/05/2010 08:14:11 PM 626 Views
Re: I'm sure he is p hart - 07/05/2010 04:40:07 PM 1058 Views
Cameron might be in trouble anyway. Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:25:14 PM 1170 Views
If they got PR as part of the deal it would be worth it Mark - 07/05/2010 02:42:36 PM 1171 Views
Possibly. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:53:28 PM 1186 Views
Re: Possibly. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:00:55 PM 981 Views
I didn't mean from that point of view. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 03:05:05 PM 1060 Views
Re: I didn't mean from that point of view. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:18:57 PM 1069 Views
Short term pain for long term gain Mark - 07/05/2010 03:02:51 PM 1154 Views
Sylvia Hermon the independent unionist would probably support them as well Mark - 07/05/2010 02:44:35 PM 1088 Views
Re: Indeed p hart - 07/05/2010 03:45:00 PM 1083 Views
Re: Indeed snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:59:41 PM 1184 Views
Well I'm fairly sure some Shinners have attended Tory conferences in the past Mark - 07/05/2010 04:05:56 PM 1009 Views
Here's what i would do to sink the Tories p hart - 07/05/2010 04:06:10 PM 1045 Views
that does sound strange AgentOrange - 07/05/2010 10:57:10 AM 1001 Views
The breakdown is pretty wack snoopcester - 07/05/2010 11:07:20 AM 1017 Views
Tell me about it. Liam - 07/05/2010 11:14:44 AM 1033 Views
I liked that as well snoopcester - 07/05/2010 11:46:42 AM 1097 Views
I'm in the Cities of London and Westminster constituency. Zeeb - 07/05/2010 11:56:04 AM 1063 Views
Not that I'd ever try to one-up you. Liam - 07/05/2010 12:54:47 PM 1116 Views
Zeeb - 07/05/2010 01:44:03 PM 991 Views
Re: The breakdown is pretty wack p hart - 07/05/2010 03:23:32 PM 1039 Views
Same here snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:47:51 PM 989 Views
Re: Same here p hart - 07/05/2010 03:56:46 PM 1143 Views
A simple change is all Druid - 07/05/2010 01:16:16 PM 1078 Views
That's not a simple change. THIS is a simple change: Tom - 07/05/2010 01:59:09 PM 1068 Views
Not that simple snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:45:00 PM 1019 Views
Because my school was a polling station we used to get the day off every polling day Mark - 07/05/2010 02:51:18 PM 1181 Views
Show off snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:53:16 PM 1019 Views
Re: Not that simple p hart - 07/05/2010 03:04:57 PM 1175 Views
Re: Not that simple Mark - 07/05/2010 03:14:46 PM 1169 Views
Re: Not that simple p hart - 07/05/2010 03:20:55 PM 866 Views
PR is hardly too difficult to implement and is much more democratic Mark - 07/05/2010 02:48:01 PM 1045 Views
I hate the list system. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:55:39 PM 1098 Views
There are many different versions Mark - 07/05/2010 03:10:38 PM 1006 Views
It's that bad i registered to moan. p hart - 07/05/2010 02:53:37 PM 1089 Views
What's amazing is that the exit polls are actually looking astonishingly correct, now. Huh. *NM* Legolas - 07/05/2010 03:35:12 PM 529 Views
As soon as i turned on the TV, i was being told the Exit polls must be wrong p hart - 07/05/2010 03:47:15 PM 990 Views
Conservatives win and the stock market plummets. j/k Burr - 07/05/2010 03:40:11 PM 984 Views
Oh, and the other interesting thing will be seeing whether the Conservatives offer.... Rebekah - 07/05/2010 03:57:52 PM 1146 Views
I like John Major Liam - 07/05/2010 04:01:03 PM 1020 Views
There's only one the LibDems will be interested in though. Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:30:55 PM 1132 Views
But p hart - 07/05/2010 08:21:11 PM 1062 Views
Isn't that the very definition of a coalition? Legolas - 07/05/2010 08:16:05 PM 1059 Views
Until you bring Lady Thatcher back, all of your elections are just pick-the-least-offensive anyway. *NM* LiterateDog - 07/05/2010 04:08:32 PM 537 Views
Well her son is good at starting coups, so maybe he might be hired for her return. *NM* p hart - 07/05/2010 04:28:52 PM 566 Views
Whatever it takes. *NM* LiterateDog - 07/05/2010 04:31:13 PM 510 Views
Please no, the milk stealer is still used to frighten children in Scotland p hart - 07/05/2010 04:47:26 PM 1007 Views
OK here is the map of England by constituency, blue Tory, red NUlab p hart - 07/05/2010 05:00:20 PM 1029 Views
So I'm just one of those upstart colonists....explain to me what is going on.... Jeordam - 07/05/2010 05:26:59 PM 1010 Views
Basically... Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:43:10 PM 1052 Views
And things are changing already Werthead - 08/05/2010 04:08:47 PM 1126 Views
To be fair, I don't know it makes for much of a change snoopcester - 08/05/2010 04:20:26 PM 1139 Views
I thought they weren't allowed to do that if Brown isn't Prime Minister? Rebekah - 08/05/2010 04:52:39 PM 1095 Views
The latter, I'd say. Legolas - 08/05/2010 05:43:23 PM 1385 Views
Brown is PM at the moment p hart - 08/05/2010 06:16:48 PM 1017 Views
They certainly can. Werthead - 09/05/2010 04:37:46 PM 1116 Views
God, our system is fucked up *NM* Monkey - 07/05/2010 06:25:04 PM 594 Views
If i were the tories p hart - 07/05/2010 11:28:43 PM 1068 Views
That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh? Legolas - 07/05/2010 11:59:58 PM 1359 Views
Re: That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh? p hart - 08/05/2010 06:11:38 PM 1111 Views
Sounds like the pressure is on for Cameron snoopcester - 08/05/2010 02:01:49 PM 1115 Views
Hmmm Balwer - 13/05/2010 12:08:04 PM 1385 Views
Completely uncalled for! Rebekah - 13/05/2010 01:12:05 PM 1194 Views
How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? Legolas - 13/05/2010 09:52:24 PM 1479 Views
Re: How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? snoopcester - 13/05/2010 10:59:35 PM 1096 Views
Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 Balwer - 14/05/2010 09:53:49 AM 1074 Views
Re: Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 snoopcester - 14/05/2010 10:45:35 AM 972 Views
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