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I'm sure he is snoopcester Send a noteboard - 07/05/2010 04:25:20 PM
Really unhappy about him. But I like Ken Clarke, so that tempering side is there.


I have always suspected a key part of his job is to make Cameron look better by comparison. It works on me - I consider not being George Osbourn to be Cameron's best feature:P

Clarke for me is like Portillo - I'm rarely if ever going to agree with either of them on politics but they are clearly smart, decent people acting for what they think is best.
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Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. Nebhead - 07/05/2010 09:29:03 AM 1763 Views
Re: Lib Dems: Up 1% of the vote, down 10% of the seats. Liam - 07/05/2010 09:45:23 AM 1239 Views
So what would you move to? Roland00 - 07/05/2010 09:53:51 AM 1046 Views
I imagine if the UK changes it will move to Proportional Representation Mark - 07/05/2010 10:04:38 AM 1176 Views
Re: So what would you move to? p hart - 07/05/2010 02:55:32 PM 1152 Views
God I hate the British system Camilla - 07/05/2010 10:24:35 AM 1180 Views
It's an excellent morning. Conservatives are at 301 right now. *NM* Tom - 07/05/2010 01:57:52 PM 601 Views
Are you counting the Speaker? *NM* Camilla - 07/05/2010 01:59:37 PM 641 Views
Indeed snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:22:37 PM 1203 Views
I love how they're calling that option "The Coalition of the Losers". Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:27:56 PM 1126 Views
They are? Where? snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:38:01 PM 1245 Views
On the lovely BBC. Paxman, Robinson, Dimbleby et al. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:52:01 PM 1133 Views
Ah, we have it on but with the sound turned down - the subtitlers must be skipping that phrase snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:13:57 PM 1077 Views
The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results. Legolas - 07/05/2010 03:45:58 PM 1137 Views
Re: The thing with PR is, the current vote results are a horrid predictor for PR vote results. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:52:19 PM 1165 Views
That is true snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:53:51 PM 1136 Views
Re: That is true p hart - 07/05/2010 03:54:51 PM 1167 Views
I'm sure it would be a setup for new elections in a few months if they did. *NM* Tom - 07/05/2010 02:40:49 PM 609 Views
I suspect we'll get one of those anyway. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:52:32 PM 1122 Views
What is the general consensus on who would win or lose from new elections? Tom - 07/05/2010 02:57:04 PM 1267 Views
I've not heard any comment on this yet. I might have missed some. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:58:00 PM 1144 Views
Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:21:23 PM 1270 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though p hart - 07/05/2010 03:29:37 PM 1242 Views
King William IV indeed. Liam - 07/05/2010 03:37:18 PM 1238 Views
Re: King William IV indeed. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:40:41 PM 1072 Views
Re: Not being talked about yet - I'd guess whoever is PM will lose though snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:04:03 PM 1168 Views
I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:09:51 PM 1147 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn p hart - 07/05/2010 04:24:56 PM 1034 Views
Yes. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:26:50 PM 926 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:28:45 PM 1122 Views
Re: I suspect a great deal of the problem is George Osborn p hart - 07/05/2010 04:34:41 PM 1102 Views
I'm sure he is snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:25:20 PM 1161 Views
Heh. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 04:27:44 PM 1232 Views
Re: Heh. snoopcester - 07/05/2010 04:43:18 PM 1212 Views
His talking about "Portillo moments" was one of the best parts of the BBC's election broadcast. *NM* Legolas - 07/05/2010 08:14:11 PM 668 Views
Re: I'm sure he is p hart - 07/05/2010 04:40:07 PM 1146 Views
Cameron might be in trouble anyway. Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:25:14 PM 1255 Views
If they got PR as part of the deal it would be worth it Mark - 07/05/2010 02:42:36 PM 1251 Views
Possibly. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:53:28 PM 1280 Views
Re: Possibly. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:00:55 PM 1071 Views
I didn't mean from that point of view. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 03:05:05 PM 1161 Views
Re: I didn't mean from that point of view. p hart - 07/05/2010 03:18:57 PM 1158 Views
Short term pain for long term gain Mark - 07/05/2010 03:02:51 PM 1237 Views
Sylvia Hermon the independent unionist would probably support them as well Mark - 07/05/2010 02:44:35 PM 1182 Views
Re: Indeed p hart - 07/05/2010 03:45:00 PM 1170 Views
Re: Indeed snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:59:41 PM 1283 Views
Well I'm fairly sure some Shinners have attended Tory conferences in the past Mark - 07/05/2010 04:05:56 PM 1098 Views
Here's what i would do to sink the Tories p hart - 07/05/2010 04:06:10 PM 1139 Views
that does sound strange AgentOrange - 07/05/2010 10:57:10 AM 1087 Views
The breakdown is pretty wack snoopcester - 07/05/2010 11:07:20 AM 1100 Views
Tell me about it. Liam - 07/05/2010 11:14:44 AM 1125 Views
I liked that as well snoopcester - 07/05/2010 11:46:42 AM 1196 Views
I'm in the Cities of London and Westminster constituency. Zeeb - 07/05/2010 11:56:04 AM 1139 Views
Not that I'd ever try to one-up you. Liam - 07/05/2010 12:54:47 PM 1210 Views
Zeeb - 07/05/2010 01:44:03 PM 1070 Views
Re: The breakdown is pretty wack p hart - 07/05/2010 03:23:32 PM 1114 Views
Same here snoopcester - 07/05/2010 03:47:51 PM 1074 Views
Re: Same here p hart - 07/05/2010 03:56:46 PM 1222 Views
A simple change is all Druid - 07/05/2010 01:16:16 PM 1170 Views
That's not a simple change. THIS is a simple change: Tom - 07/05/2010 01:59:09 PM 1151 Views
Not that simple snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:45:00 PM 1099 Views
Because my school was a polling station we used to get the day off every polling day Mark - 07/05/2010 02:51:18 PM 1263 Views
Show off snoopcester - 07/05/2010 02:53:16 PM 1094 Views
Re: Not that simple p hart - 07/05/2010 03:04:57 PM 1254 Views
Re: Not that simple Mark - 07/05/2010 03:14:46 PM 1254 Views
Re: Not that simple p hart - 07/05/2010 03:20:55 PM 963 Views
PR is hardly too difficult to implement and is much more democratic Mark - 07/05/2010 02:48:01 PM 1116 Views
I hate the list system. Rebekah - 07/05/2010 02:55:39 PM 1181 Views
There are many different versions Mark - 07/05/2010 03:10:38 PM 1091 Views
It's that bad i registered to moan. p hart - 07/05/2010 02:53:37 PM 1173 Views
What's amazing is that the exit polls are actually looking astonishingly correct, now. Huh. *NM* Legolas - 07/05/2010 03:35:12 PM 563 Views
As soon as i turned on the TV, i was being told the Exit polls must be wrong p hart - 07/05/2010 03:47:15 PM 1112 Views
Conservatives win and the stock market plummets. j/k Burr - 07/05/2010 03:40:11 PM 1068 Views
Oh, and the other interesting thing will be seeing whether the Conservatives offer.... Rebekah - 07/05/2010 03:57:52 PM 1232 Views
I like John Major Liam - 07/05/2010 04:01:03 PM 1096 Views
There's only one the LibDems will be interested in though. Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:30:55 PM 1220 Views
But p hart - 07/05/2010 08:21:11 PM 1154 Views
Isn't that the very definition of a coalition? Legolas - 07/05/2010 08:16:05 PM 1152 Views
Until you bring Lady Thatcher back, all of your elections are just pick-the-least-offensive anyway. *NM* LiterateDog - 07/05/2010 04:08:32 PM 576 Views
Well her son is good at starting coups, so maybe he might be hired for her return. *NM* p hart - 07/05/2010 04:28:52 PM 611 Views
Whatever it takes. *NM* LiterateDog - 07/05/2010 04:31:13 PM 552 Views
Please no, the milk stealer is still used to frighten children in Scotland p hart - 07/05/2010 04:47:26 PM 1093 Views
OK here is the map of England by constituency, blue Tory, red NUlab p hart - 07/05/2010 05:00:20 PM 1102 Views
So I'm just one of those upstart colonists....explain to me what is going on.... Jeordam - 07/05/2010 05:26:59 PM 1106 Views
Basically... Werthead - 07/05/2010 06:43:10 PM 1138 Views
And things are changing already Werthead - 08/05/2010 04:08:47 PM 1218 Views
To be fair, I don't know it makes for much of a change snoopcester - 08/05/2010 04:20:26 PM 1229 Views
I thought they weren't allowed to do that if Brown isn't Prime Minister? Rebekah - 08/05/2010 04:52:39 PM 1177 Views
The latter, I'd say. Legolas - 08/05/2010 05:43:23 PM 1471 Views
Brown is PM at the moment p hart - 08/05/2010 06:16:48 PM 1108 Views
They certainly can. Werthead - 09/05/2010 04:37:46 PM 1197 Views
God, our system is fucked up *NM* Monkey - 07/05/2010 06:25:04 PM 677 Views
If i were the tories p hart - 07/05/2010 11:28:43 PM 1165 Views
That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh? Legolas - 07/05/2010 11:59:58 PM 1443 Views
Re: That is hilarious. Both Brown and Dimbleby have been around for a while, huh? p hart - 08/05/2010 06:11:38 PM 1196 Views
Sounds like the pressure is on for Cameron snoopcester - 08/05/2010 02:01:49 PM 1217 Views
Hmmm Balwer - 13/05/2010 12:08:04 PM 1466 Views
Completely uncalled for! Rebekah - 13/05/2010 01:12:05 PM 1290 Views
How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? Legolas - 13/05/2010 09:52:24 PM 1571 Views
Re: How was he supposed to know that at the time he made the post? snoopcester - 13/05/2010 10:59:35 PM 1179 Views
Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 Balwer - 14/05/2010 09:53:49 AM 1159 Views
Re: Yes I jumped the gun on the 12 snoopcester - 14/05/2010 10:45:35 AM 1052 Views
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