So the list of countries using the euro will grow longer, not shorter... Estonia to join in 2011
Legolas Send a noteboard - 12/05/2010 10:51:37 PM
Estonia 'can adopt euro' in 2011 - EU Commission
The Baltic republic of Estonia, a country of 1.3 million people, is on course to adopt the euro in January 2011, the European Commission says.
The recommendation still requires the approval of all 27 EU member states, 16 of which are in the eurozone.
The Commission assessed the potential of nine EU countries to adopt the euro, and found that "Estonia stands out... fulfilling the criteria clearly".
Crucially, Estonia's public finances were found to be in a healthy state.
The other eight countries included much bigger ex-communist neighbours in Eastern Europe, such as Poland and Hungary.
The EU Commissioner for Economic and Monetary Affairs, Olli Rehn, said the assessment provided "a strong signal about the euro area".
The euro has come under huge pressure in money markets in recent months, amid fears that Greece's budget crisis could undermine other eurozone countries laden with big deficits.
The eurozone, helped by the IMF, has set up a 110bn-euro (£95bn) rescue package for Greece, along with a 750bn-euro fund to assist any eurozone countries in trouble.
The Commission said Estonia's deficit and debt were well within the acceptable limits set by the Maastricht Treaty that launched the single currency.
The deficit was 1.7% of total output (GDP) in 2009, despite a 15% drop in GDP.
Estonia's government debt stood at 7.2% of GDP in 2009 - well below the eurozone average of 60%.
The Commission's assessment covered: Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Sweden. Every two years the Commission judges whether their economic conditions meet the strict Maastricht criteria.
Since the EU's big eastward enlargement in 2004, two former communist bloc countries have joined the eurozone - Slovenia in 2007 and Slovakia in 2009. Cyprus and Malta adopted the euro in 2008.
I don't think there's any real danger here, as Estonia is outperforming several existing eurozone members economically, and small enough that any problems that might occur would be unlikely to become as destabilizing as the ones in Greece lately. Still, the timing of this report is kind of funny - one assumes they did it on purpose, to try and improve the euro's reputation a little, but it comes across as kind of a slap in the face of those who said, with some justification, that this whole shared currency without shared macro-economic policy thing is dangerous. I don't expect it will be very popular news in Germany, either.
Incidentally, I found the inclusion of Sweden in the list of countries assessed for suitability to join the euro hilarious, but also kind of sad. Sweden could've joined from the very beginning if it had wanted to, and this whole thing about it not meeting requirements is a farce to cover up the real issue - that making the euro theoretically compulsory for all EU members except the UK and Denmark (iirc) was foolish. Sweden should just be able to say, we don't want it, so we're not doing it, and same with all the newer members in Eastern Europe.
The Baltic republic of Estonia, a country of 1.3 million people, is on course to adopt the euro in January 2011, the European Commission says.
The recommendation still requires the approval of all 27 EU member states, 16 of which are in the eurozone.
The Commission assessed the potential of nine EU countries to adopt the euro, and found that "Estonia stands out... fulfilling the criteria clearly".
Crucially, Estonia's public finances were found to be in a healthy state.
The other eight countries included much bigger ex-communist neighbours in Eastern Europe, such as Poland and Hungary.
The EU Commissioner for Economic and Monetary Affairs, Olli Rehn, said the assessment provided "a strong signal about the euro area".
The euro has come under huge pressure in money markets in recent months, amid fears that Greece's budget crisis could undermine other eurozone countries laden with big deficits.
The eurozone, helped by the IMF, has set up a 110bn-euro (£95bn) rescue package for Greece, along with a 750bn-euro fund to assist any eurozone countries in trouble.
The Commission said Estonia's deficit and debt were well within the acceptable limits set by the Maastricht Treaty that launched the single currency.
The deficit was 1.7% of total output (GDP) in 2009, despite a 15% drop in GDP.
Estonia's government debt stood at 7.2% of GDP in 2009 - well below the eurozone average of 60%.
The Commission's assessment covered: Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Sweden. Every two years the Commission judges whether their economic conditions meet the strict Maastricht criteria.
Since the EU's big eastward enlargement in 2004, two former communist bloc countries have joined the eurozone - Slovenia in 2007 and Slovakia in 2009. Cyprus and Malta adopted the euro in 2008.
I don't think there's any real danger here, as Estonia is outperforming several existing eurozone members economically, and small enough that any problems that might occur would be unlikely to become as destabilizing as the ones in Greece lately. Still, the timing of this report is kind of funny - one assumes they did it on purpose, to try and improve the euro's reputation a little, but it comes across as kind of a slap in the face of those who said, with some justification, that this whole shared currency without shared macro-economic policy thing is dangerous. I don't expect it will be very popular news in Germany, either.
Incidentally, I found the inclusion of Sweden in the list of countries assessed for suitability to join the euro hilarious, but also kind of sad. Sweden could've joined from the very beginning if it had wanted to, and this whole thing about it not meeting requirements is a farce to cover up the real issue - that making the euro theoretically compulsory for all EU members except the UK and Denmark (iirc) was foolish. Sweden should just be able to say, we don't want it, so we're not doing it, and same with all the newer members in Eastern Europe.
So the list of countries using the euro will grow longer, not shorter... Estonia to join in 2011
- 12/05/2010 10:51:37 PM
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Sounds like a winner
- 12/05/2010 11:07:38 PM
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You Americans should like Estonia - they're rather neoliberal that way.
- 12/05/2010 11:18:30 PM
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I liked the remark one Estonian bankofficial made
- 12/05/2010 11:38:26 PM
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I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that.
- 12/05/2010 11:52:41 PM
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Re: I do sometimes wish more Belgians would understand that.
- 13/05/2010 12:05:03 AM
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That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility.
- 13/05/2010 12:11:37 AM
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Social attitudes take a very long time to change.
- 13/05/2010 12:28:09 AM
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We have need-based scholarships. We could extend them.
- 13/05/2010 12:38:31 AM
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I guess it depends on exactly what the fees are.
- 13/05/2010 11:06:37 AM
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They're low. Too low.
- 13/05/2010 12:12:29 PM
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- 13/05/2010 12:12:29 PM
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American universities do have entrance exams. Sort of.
- 13/05/2010 02:17:13 PM
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- 13/05/2010 02:17:13 PM
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Those are really too lame to count.
- 13/05/2010 02:21:23 PM
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meh. Most degrees are useless anyway.
- 13/05/2010 01:14:54 AM
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That could be fixed if there weren't such stigma attached to vocational schools.
- 13/05/2010 02:18:40 AM
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Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility.
- 13/05/2010 08:08:16 PM
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Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility.
- 14/05/2010 11:48:22 AM
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Is it as late as university? Or is it a good bit earlier? EDIT: Nevermind. Answered elsewhere.
- 14/05/2010 05:36:50 PM
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Re: Is it as late as university? Or is it a good bit earlier? EDIT: Nevermind. Answered elsewhere.
- 14/05/2010 07:57:32 PM
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Re: That would be more convincing if universities promoted more social mobility.
- 14/05/2010 08:02:58 PM
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naw most of them are getting degrees in liberal arts because they like to read book more then work
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- 13/05/2010 02:01:59 PM
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- 13/05/2010 02:01:59 PM
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Surely Sweden can say, or could have said, that they wouldn't join till they damn well felt like it?
- 12/05/2010 11:39:57 PM
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Apparently Denmark only got the opt-out after rejecting the Maastricht treaty.
- 12/05/2010 11:47:00 PM
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Good point: it seems to me no-one cares about being Belgian, only Flemish or Walloon
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- 12/05/2010 11:51:27 PM
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- 12/05/2010 11:51:27 PM
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It's slightly more subtle than that.
- 13/05/2010 12:00:29 AM
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What do you think about this suggestion?
- 13/05/2010 12:09:02 AM
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That has been suggested by many, yeah.
- 13/05/2010 12:28:24 AM
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But before you make a decision like that...
- 13/05/2010 08:36:07 AM
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They can export him to another country which needs a king. Wouldn't be the first time.
- 13/05/2010 10:57:59 AM
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Hmm, a pan-European entity getting too big and splitting into Eastern and Western administrations...
- 13/05/2010 11:09:51 AM
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There is one answer to most of those questions
- 12/05/2010 11:49:46 PM
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I love that the rest of you have the euro.
- 12/05/2010 11:53:10 PM
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*waits for the Pound to drop and the UK begging for the euro*
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- 12/05/2010 11:56:25 PM
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- 12/05/2010 11:56:25 PM
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That would be the worst time to do it.
- 13/05/2010 12:05:32 AM
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I think on the balance, that's probably better than the opposite, but yeah, neither is ideal. *NM*
- 13/05/2010 12:14:23 AM
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WOW WHEN DID THE UK CHANGE THEIR COINS
- 13/05/2010 12:10:41 AM
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- 13/05/2010 12:10:41 AM
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2008, apparently. Though I don't think we actually saw them until 2009.
- 13/05/2010 12:17:46 AM
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Oh. Okay. I guess the black is just a reflective thing they're doing for the photo.
- 13/05/2010 12:37:24 AM
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I used to use a ten-pound note to inhale...things.
- 13/05/2010 05:54:09 AM
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You have a thing for Charles Darwin?
- 13/05/2010 10:45:14 AM
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From "Mean Mr. Mustard" - "keeps a ten-bob note up his nose...such a mean old man..."
- 13/05/2010 02:36:34 PM
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In that case I'm going to have to disappoint you.
- 13/05/2010 02:54:04 PM
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I knew that, but I had limited options.
- 13/05/2010 03:15:07 PM
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You could try a €500 note.
- 13/05/2010 03:18:11 PM
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In other news, the sky is blue.
- 13/05/2010 03:33:25 PM
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- 13/05/2010 03:33:25 PM
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I seem to remember reading something in 2002 about Germans paying their monthly rent in cash.
- 13/05/2010 03:43:35 PM
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Ooh...I'm sure THAT will shore up the eurozone... *laughs*
- 13/05/2010 05:51:12 AM
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Nobody said it would.
- 13/05/2010 12:34:27 PM
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- 13/05/2010 12:34:27 PM
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You know what will save the eurozone ?
- 13/05/2010 04:55:06 PM
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